Lawmakers seek new gun legislation: Ammo control laws

examiner.com ^ | January 27, 2009 | Jim Kouri

[chuckles]

I don't still have the link, but it was an idea out there in the Clinton era. They had several ideas to identify shooters and try not to have the NRA raise a ruckus. If the gubmint didn't actually "take" your gun, what's the harm with alterantive ID methods? I'm sure you've heard the others, like a microscopic number or symbol on your hammer to imprint the primer or test fire the gun at the factory or point of sale and recover the bullet and cartridge to warehouse it with the buyers name and info. The flakes in the powder came about sometime around the OK City bombing I think to mark ANY explosive, even fertilizer. Where it came from, who the manufacturer was, and they would regulate the sale, so you would have to buy it with ID that would be recorded with the info on the box of shells. It looked as small as glitter flakes and held all kinds of info in a bar code or numbers. When fired, the flakes went everywhere and were easy to find.

The Dems have 50 years of gun grabbing ideas laying dusty on the shelf. With Obama and both houses in the crazy camp, they have already dusted off several and are putting them on the docket. With the Dems in control, I think it will be more of a blunt instrument like gun licensing or just an out and out ban. There is no need for the sneaky stuff when Obama has already told us, "He won".

I think a great deal will depend on the resistance they get when this stuff is implemented. We may as well get used to screaming about every mention of Second Amendment restrictions. After the drubbing the Dems took after Clinton lost the house and Senate, the Dems ARE "gun shy" about getting too froggy. Was it the tax hike, gays in the military, gun control measures, or a combo of items that gave them the largest drubbing in history. I think, in the South, it was gun control measures. The Blue Dogs, just couldn't vote for gun control and keep their seats. They have such a majority now, I think we may have some real trouble.

[aragorn]

...there is no way they can maintain 300-500 meter (or larger) sterile zones around a sufficient number of politicians and their appointees to not "discourage" the others.

Appropriate application of attention will be required to effectively change the hearts and minds of the proper groups of people. The folks who need to be convinced of the error of their way include politicians and bureaucrats at all levels, pressitutes and their cheerleaders, like members of the Brady bunch and their ilk.

Until all of these people understand that their advocacy of or attempts at infringing on or removing our rights, and attempting to make us serfs, means the strong possibility of very real, and very personal consequences, they will gladly keep sending the "poor bastards that want to die for their country" after those of us who just want to be left alone, while they sit snugly in their homes and the LSM cheers them on.

No threat stated or implied here, just an observation,

[Rockhound]

“Um, does your hammer make you nervous?”

Only when I’m lowering it with a live round in the chamber

[thefactor]

i am all too familiar with the merger of the NYPD with the transit/housing forces. but this guy's website makes no reference to him being a COP much less a CHIEF.

and even if he was a chief in the housing police before the merger there were no "chiefs" of single housing projects.

the housing cops were cops. this guys lists everything he has ever done on his website, but the word "cop" never appears. something is not right.

[Red in Blue PA]

There really should be a law that anyone who write gun legislation needs to spend at least 1000 hours at the range.

[Dead Corpse]

Best to just stop this crap from becoming law.

We may not have that option. I hope there are enough pro-RKBA Democrats because I know too many in the GOP have lost their spine on this crucial issue.

[Dead Corpse]

I think there would be a slim majority that would “just follow orders”. Them, along with Zero’s new Civil “Peacecorps”, TSA, Vaterland Defense, and most of the civilian law enforcement would be on the side of perpetuating even an unConstitutional government.

[prophetic]

Pretty soon they will require a chip embedded under your skin...

More likely this:
Rev 13:16-17 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads. And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

With the WORLDWIDE economic & finaicial chaos going on it has set the stage for the cashless society and then this way the world leader controls & regulates everyone's life.

[absolootezer0]

And those are probably already shaking their heads, wondering what the hell just happened to make them vote for the Prince of Infanticide.

not likely. the majority of those were union workers who only own a .30-30 or a shotgun, maybe a handgun or two for hunting, and only shoot maybe a box of shells a year.
taxing the crap out of their guns/ ammo, adding registration won't change anything.
all they care about are gov't bailouts so they keep their nice cushy union jobs.

[Centurion2000]

bump for later.

[absolootezer0]

depends on the cartridge. unique is about the most common powder around. you can load just about any pistol with it and it is also used in shotguns. red dot and green dot are also common shotgun powders and can be used as pistol powders.

[PapaBear3625]

Umm, OK, so Mr criminal uses an inertia bullet puller or even a pair of pliers to extract the bullet from the shell, files off the serial number, and pushes the bullet back into the shell.

Or even easier, Mr Criminal uses fake ID using your name to buy ammo. The cops then come looking for you instead of him.

[668 - Neighbor of the Beast]

There is a line being drawn and I am sorry to say that when push comes to shove, I believe 90% of gun owners will fold.

Yes. Ninety percent at least. Keyboard blustering of molon labe notwithstanding, most of us will surrender without a shot being fired.

[PapaBear3625]

The politicians may decide to wait a few years, and in the meantime mandate the elimination of lead-based primers in all current-manufacture ammo, to be replaced by limited life primers.

Give it a few years, and the amount of long-life ammo would be much smaller.

[3catsanadog]

One week into the Obama Administration and it's beginning to look like I'm witnessing someone who won the lottery - pulling out that credit card to buy a gazillion things right away.

These people are drunk with power and are steamrolling all their pet projects over the American people.

Good Lord - could they take a little break so we can come up for air??????

[ponygirl]

Sounds like we are on the verge of many more “Ruby Ridges.”

[ArrogantBustard]

Simple solution is to pour out the powder and replace it with a like amount of powder from your shotgun shells, etc.

It would be sort of amusing if the crooks would replace rifle powder with a like volume of pistol or shotgun powder ...

But ... PLEASE!!!!

Don't Do It.

[ArrogantBustard]

Some powders are perfectly good for both shotgun and pistol.

[Danae]

That’s what I was referring to.

[Dead Corpse]

In a pinch, and with trial and error, I’m sure a lot of things would work just fine. Just dropping any old flammable substance into a cartridge is a REALLY bad idea.