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To: Filo
But I'm not advocating this to weaken Israel and I do recognize the duplicity and untrustworthiness of Islam that others have pointed out.

The elimination of Jewish control over the site of the Holy Temples will utterly demoralize Israel, and hasten the destruction of whatever is left of it by the Arabs who simply don't recognize ANY sovereignty over that land other than their own.

Also, I'm at least grateful to the Arabs that they are VERY trustworthy - once you know their ultimate goal (taking over every square inch of Earth and killing everyone who refuses to convert), then they are amazingly consistent. Every single action, whether it is highly agressive or seemingly a retreat into reasonableness, serves a purpose. They're aggressive/murderous when they can be, passive and rather docile when someone else has a loaded gun at their head - you think that Lenin invented that stuff about pushing when a bayonet encounters soft flesh and pulling it out when it hits bone???

I just think that the Vatican might provide a good model for the administration of the Holy Land and that by removing that burr we might be able to finally shut the Muslims up.

How is Vatican City a model for Jerusalem? No other religion has ever claimed the land where it sits, and the country which surrounds it is one of the most Catholic in the world. That's no model, any more than Bernie Madoff is a good model of honest dealing in the investment world.

"...shut the Muslims up." Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Simply won't happen. Our grandchildren's grandchildren's grandchildren will still be hearing their bellie-aching, should these descendants of ours ever live and worship as we do.

I respect your desire to find a peaceful solution, but there simply isn't one. American Presidents would do well do devote their energies to attempting to solve problems capable of being solved, like conjuring up rainbow-farting unicorns to fix our fatally-wounded economy.

65 posted on 01/28/2009 10:08:38 AM PST by Ancesthntr (Dedicated to stopping the Obamination and his minions from destroying the USA)
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To: Ancesthntr
The elimination of Jewish control over the site of the Holy Temples will utterly demoralize Israel, and hasten the destruction of whatever is left of it by the Arabs who simply don't recognize ANY sovereignty over that land other than their own.

I see what you're saying, but I do recognize that we are a pragmatic people. . .

It might not be that bad. Also, I'm at least grateful to the Arabs that they are VERY trustworthy - once you know their ultimate goal (taking over every square inch of Earth and killing everyone who refuses to convert), then they are amazingly consistent. Every single action, whether it is highly agressive or seemingly a retreat into reasonableness, serves a purpose.

Agreed 100%

How is Vatican City a model for Jerusalem?

Inasmuch as it's a self-contained, self-managed and self-defended religious city respected the world over. . . I respect your desire to find a peaceful solution, but there simply isn't one.

Well, in that case I may have to revert to my "nuke 'em all and let allah sort 'em out" position.

/sigh
68 posted on 01/28/2009 10:29:56 AM PST by Filo (Darwin was right!)
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