Posted on 01/26/2009 11:35:43 AM PST by nickcarraway
For me the most stunning aspect of a visit to Auschwitz is the huge size of the camps. It really gives you a sense of the scale of the tragedy just walking from one end of Auschwitz II-Birkenau to the other.
Weasel's own writings are not to be believed either. He berates the world for the Holocaust when he himself did not believe survivors who told him face-to-face about the horrors that were happening.
Psychologists have a term for folks that blame others for their own guilt. Mr. Weasel is one of those.
And yes, the spelling is intentional.
Surely #42 is one of the most despicable and ignorant posts I’ve ever seen on Free Republic.
Isn’t that the Soviet War Memorial in Berlin?
I visited Dachau twice during my tours in Germany. I found it very sterile, almost anstiseptic. Most of the camp is gone and it was almost impossible for me to visualize what had occured there.
Yes, in the Tiergarten.
I can’t tell you specifically why, ops, but I just had a terrible feeling when I was there. I have never forgotten it.
Observing the punk rockers at the beer garden afterwards helped take my mind off from it. There was one girl? who had a big, live rat apparently living inside her chopped up sweat shirt. It would crawl out her her forward area, perch on her shoulder, then head back in. WTF??? WAITER, ANOTHER ROUND... :-)
“For me the most stunning aspect of a visit to Auschwitz is the huge size of the camps. It really gives you a sense of the scale of the tragedy just walking from one end of Auschwitz II-Birkenau to the other.”
I have never been there, but a couple friends have. And they said the same thing: The immense size of the place just left them stunned. That was the word they both used: “Stunned.” And they didn’t know each other, and, as far as I know, never met each other. I just thought it was interesting that they both used the same word, and that both of them, in slightly different ways, said there is no word or sords to accurately describe the enormity of the thing (the place and what went on there). One of them, a woman in her forties when she went there, said she started shaking uncontrollably as she stood near one of the buildings, as if she had been dipped into an ice cold vat (she went there in the summer). I remember her saying there was not a sound to be heard, just the whisper of a breeze.
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These are the words of an ignorant Holocaust-revisionist swine. Are you such a person, or are you quoting someone else?
See if your ward nurse can find a copy of Origins of Totalitarianism by Hannah Arendt (yes, a Jew), and maybe a nurse-aide or Red Cross worker can read it to you...perhaps even explain it to you (alas, it contains no drawing or pictures.
It was not the only industrial genocide, nor was it unmatched in its inhumanity and brutality.
It is most important to us because we have such impeccable records.
Neither the Stalinist nor Maoist mass murders are forgotten...
But so little is known of them because they were never conquered, their records never captured and scoured by historians for generations.
...but there is no great lesson there, either, other than that tyranny is evil.
Yet your first graf seems to boast of the merits of cleaning up, profiting from the remains of the victims, and moving on. You make me want to vomit.
If I had the authority to do so, I'd nuke your account right now.
I never made it out to Dachau when I was in Muenchen for the 72 Olympics. I wasn’t ready to face it at the time.
What happens when the buildings are no longer safe to tour’
The showers remain...a rebuilt dorm (horrific, as well) is there...the crematorium...and the metal graphic, in the yard, representing the camp, its prisoners and their pain and the fence is a statue you can never forget once seen.
You know nothing of me, you misinterpret what I write, and you curse me. You are no more competent to comment on the Holocaust than is a denier, or worse, a leftist who hates Jews. A knee jerk imbecile.
I mentioned Waterloo because it was a great and decisive battle in history, it changed the course of Europe, it victors were heralded and its defeated ruined, its tyrant crushed. That one battle affected tens of millions of people. And yet, at its conclusion, the dead were left to decay where they had fallen.
What does this say about how people honor history? How just a year later, their Earthly remains of their heroes and saviors were used as fertilizer?
For all the lives lost in the Holocaust, the opinion of the world to the Jews wasn’t changed one bit. Thrown the possibility of a scrap of land to call their own, they had to fight the British for it. And then they had to fight the Muslims for it. Of the entire world, perhaps only America helped the Jews in any substantial way, and then, to at least some extent, for its own reasons.
Yes, the Holocaust is one of the most important events in Jewish history. But the rest of the world doesn’t care—as they have just recently demonstrated. With the passing of every year, it becomes less special—just another terribly tragedy caused by evil.
So why preserve a concentration camp? In another 50 years, with or without the camp, the Germans will have probably rehabilitated Hitler, as the French have done to Bonaparte. They will think of him as “Just another German leader”.
The Jews have a heartfelt slogan of “Never Again!”, but it, too, is just for them, because the rest of the world has already forgotten.
The Russians already have forgiven Stalin for his crimes, as have the Chinese forgiven Mao. Millions of their countrymen died. It is insane that they would still admire their killers. But they do. Is there any illusion that the Holocaust to them is even worth consideration?
This is a serious subject. There is no place for the arrogance you exhibited.
I thought so. I was stationed in Berlin 84-88 and would watch the Soviets do a sort of changing of the guard at that memorial. Not very impressive. The war memorial was one of three places in West Berlin the Soviets could stationed their soldiers. The other 2 were Spandau Prison and the Berlin Air Safety Center.
You want arrogance, reread your original post. And don’t claim I know nothing of you, for I have read that original post.
Could have said all that stuff in the beginning lessening your chances of being misunderstood.
Besides, why get rid of something just because the ‘rest of the world doesn’t care’?
Not the Reichstag, but the Reich Chancellory. And it wasn’t this memorial but the Soviet memorial and cemetery located at Treptow, located in the former East Berlin. I’ve been to both. Wikipedia has a descriptive article on both memorials.
Incedentally, the Reichstag, though heavily damaged, was not demolished and is currently in use as the seat of Germany’s lower house.
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