It still just doesn’t happen..., just like it said — unprecedented...
The last time I ever heard of a shooting in downtown Portland was mid-day, during a business day with lunch hour traffic out there and I believe it was right on Broadway. Some guy mad at another guy and a bit crazy, too — just walks up and shoots him several times and walks away. That’s about it, as far as I’ve heard...
And you know there probably weren’t anybody on the streets of portland with a legal carry firearm for personal protection. Bummer about people getting killed, the shooter is where he belongs though.
Sanctuary city? (Just askin’)
They don’t allow concealed carry in bars but they allow 16 year old girls?
Here is the side bar about the shooter from the O article.
Suspect called quiet, video game fan
Erik Salvador Ayala was a quiet man with an interest in computers and video games, not guns or nightclubs, his friend and roommate said Sunday.
Ayala’s mysterious appearance and alleged shooting spree outside a downtown Portland club Saturday night shocked and mystified his friends, said Mike Delisle, Ayala’s roommate.
He said he had no idea why his roommate went downtown Saturday night and he doesn’t think Ayala knew any of the victims.
“It was a big surprise. I didn’t see it coming,” said Delisle, who attended Keizer’s McNary High School with Ayala. “He was a quiet person. He kept to himself.”
Ayala did not frequent dance clubs, such as The Zone, Delisle said. Ayala was not a violent person, did not own a gun and never showed an interest in firearms, he said.
Ayala had worked for the state of Oregon as a contract employee about two years ago. Since then he has worked for temporary employment agencies, Delisle said.
In high school, Ayala was in the McNary band and was a bit of a practical joker. He kept to himself and was hesitant to show his emotions, Delisle said.
One of the things that brought him joy was playing video games such as “Resistance: Fall of Man,” in which an Army Ranger fights an alien race that is trying to take over the world, or “Left 4 Dead,” where the object is to slay fighting zombies.
Half a dozen criminalists converged on a Milwaukie apartment Sunday afternoon to shoot video, take still photographs and examine Ayala’s home.
The apartment is among 18 in four buildings that make up a small complex on Southeast 32nd Avenue.
The police said Sunday evening that Ayala, 24, was the man who shot nine people Saturday night. He shot himself afterward and was in critical condition Sunday night.
Earlier on Sunday, a police video photographer went alone into the small apartment for more than 30 minutes, then the other forensic officers, pulling on rubber gloves, entered as well.
Ayala’s neighbors said the complex draws students and other short-term tenants who generally don’t speak anything more than pleasantries to each other.
Esther Ramirez, 24, who moved into the apartment directly above Ayala’s eight months ago, said she had seen a woman who appeared to be Ayala’s girlfriend coming out of Ayala’s apartment; she said she thinks the girlfriend is deaf because Ayala communicated with her with American Sign Language.
Jake Moreland, 15, and his mother, Renee, 48, live in an apartment directly across a small courtyard from Ayala. Renee Moreland said she saw police officers around the Ayala building well into Sunday morning; she said she was stunned to know the possible reasons for the police interest.
“He was really quiet,” she said. “I just can’t believe this is happening.”
Records show that Erik Salvador Ayala once lived in Keizer at the same address as Salvador and Mildred Ayala in a one-story, ranch-style home in a working-class neighborhood.
No one answered the door at the white house with blue trim Sunday afternoon. There was a car and a pickup in the driveway.
Neighbors say the Ayalas are a nice family, willing to help out if they can. They are quiet, no complaints, said Sidney Mosley, who lives next door. Mosley has lived in the neighborhood for two years and said the Ayalas were there when she moved in.
Mosley said she knows the mom doesn’t speak a lot of English. There is a girl who goes to high school and boys living there, though Mosley doesn’t know how many boys or their names. She thinks one of the boys works for Target.
Told that one of the sons may have been involved in a shooting in Portland, she said: “I wouldn’t have thought anything like that.”
A neighbor across the street said she found it “incredibly hard to believe” that one of the boys from the Ayala family would be involved. The neighbor did not want to be named and was not willing to give information other than to confirm that Salvador and Mildred Ayala lived across from her. She said the Ayala kids have helped her out when her car was broken and also helped her with her computer.
Obama’s fault.
This was a no-alcohol teen bar. The kids had just arrived and hadn’t even entered. (And minors can’t carry pistols anyway.)
The victims were cream-of-the-drop straight-A Rotary Youth Exchange students, one from Peru, and the other a local girl planning to travel to France next year.
The spot was not a bad or dangerous one. This was just a nutball who decided to ruin lives. I had heard elsewhere that there was an intended target, but I’m unsure if either of the deceased girls was it. This does not appear to be a concealed carry political issue. Deterrents don’t work on nutcases.
I didn't see any Irish names in the article. I did see a name from "Gone With The Wind."
Sounds like a loner who had a hard time making connections. I’m not a believer in corruption by computer games, but if that was all the life he had, it could have affected him.
Where did he get the gun? It doesn’t sound as if he was a hunter or a habitual criminal.
“The victims have been identified as 16-year-old Ashley Wilks...”
isn’t that a certain General’s nickname?
Also, for those who don’t know...
“Half a dozen criminalists converged on a Milwaukie apartment Sunday afternoon to shoot video, take still photographs and examine Ayala’s home.”
Milwaukie (spelled right...) is an adjacent suburb to Portland, on the east side of the Willamette River, directly south of Portland... (about a 15 minute drive, I would guess from downtown...).
“This shooting appears to be a random act of violence, of the kind that makes you despair for America,” Sizer said.
Ummmm.... No.
Obama makes me despair for America.
Yet, those laws never stop the shooter so obviously the answer is even more gun laws. Insanity.
1. Mr. Ayala apparently shot people pretty indiscriminately, and most likely very quickly; however, both of the dead were girls, which may be suggestive of something.
2. Mr. Ayala shot himself, which suggests that he may have been more interested in a "blaze of glory" type of suicide than anything else.
3. His roommate says that there were no indications of problems. He may be lying, but then again, perhaps Mr. Ayala was a quiet sort of loon.
4. He had a state job, but had worked at a temp agency for the past two years. This suggests that Mr. Ayala may have had "difficulties" of one sort or another.
I would not be surprised to learn that one of Mr. Ayala's temp jobs was either at or near the club in question; and that he either developed a crush on, or hatred for, somebody who worked there.
Folks, these types of incidents are going to be commonplace during the Obama regime. Remember the rash of school shootings that happened in Clinton’s 2nd term? It’s the demoralization of our nation and general breakdown in ethics that comes from the top. People see this and get emboldened to commit these heinous crimes.
RIP.
White Salmon is well over a one hour drive from that part of Portland; and on a school night. That part of Portland is not a place to be at night.
The Rotary organization can expect to be sued and pay out a ton of money. Totally irresponsible of them to sponser this party.