Posted on 01/22/2009 9:15:37 PM PST by Sammy67
Nope, didn’t take long at all. About as long as it took for the trolls to show up on this thread.
“...he’s not some junior at yale running for treasurer of skull and bones!!!...”
But the one he “swore in” IS, in my mind, STILL JUST a junior senator from Illinois who can list his acomplishment(s) as........?
i'm just eagerly awaiting the new trek movie. looks good, even if it's with the old characters. give me some TNG!
“The fact that Chief Justice Roberts administered the oath later that day in a manner and form that was correct, falsifies this ridiculous theory.”
I don’t have a dog in this fight. Obama’s behavior is just plain baffling.
1. Most legal scholars viewed a “do over” on the oath as completely unnecessary.
2. Yet Obama re-did it anyway: good for him. Why NOT eradicate any doubt on this point especially given that it was so easy to do? An ounce of prevention etc.
3. On his first day in office, Obama also made a huge point of his commitment to transparency in government. Again, within reason (since we actually do want a system in which the president can safely seek and obtain a broad range of candid advice on issues without those advising them worrying about seeing an out-of-context quote of theirs appearing in the NY Times), all power to him. Shining a light on what in the past might have been back-room deals can serve as a healthy anti-septic to corruption.
4. So in the above context, BHO’s behavior regarding the birth certificate (leaving aside many OTHER documents such as school transcripts routinely made available by past presidents to an ever-hungry press) is even more baffling. BHO has the lone power to legally make available his long form BC. Any other public official or policy advisor who might seek to do so risks going to jail. Litigants across the country are squandering their resources and those of taxpayers continuing to get him to just release that form, yet he STONEWALLS them rather than just produce the document in question.
YOU tell ME why BHO is behaving in such a fashion. There’s certainly no shortage of potential explanations: a) BHO is extremely arrogant and isn’t going to be pushed around by his critics; b) BHO is a timid weenie who fears that “caving” on this demand is simply going to fuel later more consequential demands, hence the best strategy is just to nip things in the bud; c) notwithstanding his “post-partisan” rhetoric, BHO is a partisan par excellence who DELIGHTS in poking his critics in the eye; d) BHO is so clueless and/or isolated by his advisors that they have implemented an expensive stonewall strategy without his even realizing it; or e) BHO has something to hide that either is extremely embarrassing or would demonstrate beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is ineligible to serve as POTUS.
I’m not implying that the foregoing is a collectively exhaustive list of possibilities. But each could be plausibly argued without its defender necessarily having to be fitted with a tinfoil hat to do so.
At this juncture, I’m honestly struggling to come up with an explanation that fits the publicly available facts but which also doesn’t raise serious concerns about the character or temperament of the person who has now been entrusted with the Nuclear Football. Frankly, that is a bit scary.
A little aside from this article. A friend and I were on our way from San Francisco to Sydney, Australia via Honolulu. On the ride fro SF, he started to have pains in his back. It was bad enough that the pilot had an ambulance stand by to take us to the hospital. Long story short, it was discovered by an MRI that his spleen was about to rupture. He had it removed in Honolulu and is doing great today. That was in 1991. The hospital was Straub Clinic and Hospital. They had a great team of doctors and nurses then. There is no reason to think that that has changed.
ESpecially tripping on the word “faithfully.”
I don't think anyone has suggested that. The problem is Straub Clinic keeps records do they not? Seems to me if Obama were born there wouldn't there be a record of it? I gave birth to 3 children in a hospital in 1980, 1982 and again in 1985. I can go back to that hospital and find a record of my stay there. So where's Obama's mother's Hawaiian hospital records?
No hospital anywhere in the Hawaiian islands have one. Why not? How about Queens Hospital? Record? None. Kapiolani? Zip, nada. These are red flags folks.
Thanks, LucyT
Ping.
Agreed. Now all we need is a final determination of 0bama's citizenship status.
Good question.
Probably because the press made sure that the "useful idiots" did NOT learn the following..
0bama’s father was a communist.
His step-father was a communist.
His mother was a communist “fellow traveller” who met his father when they were both studying Russian, the language that radical lefties studied in the 60's.
His mentor, Frank Marshall Davis, was a communist who was under FBI Surveillance.
His close buddy of twenty seven years (yes, they met in 1982) Bill Ayers is a communist.
He sought out Marxist Professors in college (his words) and found them - Edward Said, former PLO spokesman, and close friend of 0bama AND Ayers from 1982.
His hero, and author of his playbook, Saul Alinsky, was a communist.
His friend Mike Klonsky is a communist.
His friend, and current Palestinian Authority spokesman, Rashid Khalidi, is a communist.
His Preacher of 20 years preaches Black Liberation Theology, a Marxist ideology.
One good effect of the do-over is that if he violates his oath of office, he can be doubly punished. (Twice as much as Clinton was...too bad two times zero is still zero.)
I wonder how much Barbara Nelson got paid for her convenient “recollection”.
(just saying...)
Yes, but the power is not legitimate, and that is why Obama and past Presidents have had to recite it a second time.
Sort of looks as though Straub was an out-patient clinic until they started building the hospital in 1970. Maybe there is more info down the thread.
What does your story have to do with the question of whether Dr. West delivered 0bama at either Straub Clinic or elsehwere in 1961? There are basically two questions here:
1. Did Dr.West deliver 0bama even though he had, according to the references cited, stopped practicing and was now functioning as an administrator?
2. Did Straub Clinic have, in 1961, in-patient delivery facilities? Looks to me as though they did not.
Since 0bama was not born in 1991, I don’t see the point of your story.
No, I voted for Romney in the primary and McCain in the general.
It looks like the Chief Justice has satisfied his doubts (according to what the article said, above) and knows it’s okay to administer the oath of office as it should be — in that the Chief Justice has now administered that oath of office...
Obama is sworn in for second time
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/obama_inauguration/7843881.stm
I guess everything is “okay” on the “oath of office” issue, now...
Simple mistake. No conspiracy.
The doctor’s name is news to me as is the journalist/teacher but I will see what I can find out today. Thanks for pinging me to this, sure appreciate it.
From the subsequent vetting it looks bogus to me!
And about the oath swearing, someone dug this up:
>>>Knappen’s Constitutional and Legal History of England, the chapter on Anglo-Saxon law, p 59, says:
“It was required that the statements be delivered in set form with verbal accuracy and without correction or stammering. He who failed in a syllable failed in everything, said a legal proverb. The point of this was that the religious-minded Anglo-Saxons put great faith in the supernatural, and they felt that if a man was about to swear falsely, God, by whom he swore, would cause him to falter in his speech.”
Cool! I think this is great!
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