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To: abigailsmybaby
I guess I should have explained this all out. I am saying that you can stop a teacher from saying, ‘class, we are having a moment of silence’ or a pray or whatever as a group with a public employee leading the pray, silence or what not. Essentially they are stopping the kids from praying or having a moment of silence lead by a public employee.

And like I said earlier that you can not stop people from praying on their own because people don't know if you are praying or thinking. Although, I do believe that if a atheist got wind of a group of kids having a moment of silence before class started, somebody would sue because the kids are now endorsing religion.

So, I am not disagreeing with you that the kids could put their heads together. My point was that they are stopping the teachers from leading a prayer in a class room. And a more important point that I wanted to make is this:

God is being removed from public view and for a reason. We have to keep God in public view or people will forget about God and look to the guvment for help. That is what the socialist wish for. This is what is most important.

My question too, is why is it not seen as restricting the free exercise thereof? A moment of silence does not endorse or establish a religion; and a moment of silence does not turn anybody into a religious person. Stopping prayer in school (lead by a public employee) is simply removing God from public view. This is part of the socialist agenda. Why do we have to continue to compromise God from public view. We have done enough compromising over the years. It is time for the atheist to compromise.

It appears to me that the guvment is now endorsing the religion of atheism. The guvment does this by removing pray from school (pray or moment of silence lead by a public employee, or pray that spoken in a group setting (example: see graduation ceremony). I think it is time to stop compromising and start fighting for our rights.

Constitutionally, we are correct. Only Congress has the power to establish a religion. Praying in school, manger scenes, and Ten Commandments on public property do not establish a religion. Telling me to remove the Ten Commandments or Menorah restricts my free exercise to celebrate my religion. Telling teachers that they can not lead a moment of silence restricts the free exercise thereof. And may I add that if your forefathers didn't want prayer on public property, they would never started to lead their session of Congress off with a prayer. They are not endorsing or establishing a religion when they do this. They are simply excising their Constitutional right.

Now, why can't the people do the same? I believe the problem is a group of people (called socialist) who have an agenda are trying to remove God from public view permanently. They want you to pray to the guvment for help from the time you are in the cradle to the time you are in the grave.

36 posted on 01/22/2009 5:41:44 PM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. - One of General Abram's men)
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To: do the dhue

You didn’t have to explain any of this. I know what your problem is. You want the teacher to be able to lead prayer sessions during school.

Why does that matter? Why does the teacher have to be able to make the statement “class we’ll take a moment to pray or reflect”? They can do that without the teacher saying a word.

If I was the parents of these kids I’d send them to school with their Bibles and just dare the atheist to sue.


40 posted on 01/22/2009 6:03:56 PM PST by abigailsmybaby (Always carry a flagon of whiskey in case of snakebite and furthermore always carry a small snake.)
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