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Conservatism's Dilemma: To be or not to be in the GOP
American Thinker ^ | January 21, 2009 | Larrey Anderson

Posted on 01/21/2009 1:32:00 AM PST by neverdem

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To: neverdem

More than a year from now. I would advise folks to register back, months before then. I’m planning on traveling to Arizona to help defeat McCain next year, and perhaps even as early as late this year if need be.


61 posted on 01/21/2009 6:55:58 AM PST by DoughtyOne (D1: Home of the golden tag line: If we are all equal, why was 01/20/09 a profound day in history?)
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To: mrsmel

It seems to me...the RINO’s are going in droves. Voinivich-for example. Now who will replace him? I would bet money it will be a Democrat in this environment. Reagan said he would rather have an elected official who votes 70% with him then 100% against him. We have lost the RINO’s in the East and are losing the few left in the Mid West. How does that help conservatism? I am not sure there are enough...real conservatives (whatever that means) to win national elections so we have a choice. Give up and go third party. The Dems will win for years. Our rebuild our big tent GOP party.


62 posted on 01/21/2009 7:01:56 AM PST by bronxboy
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To: WildcatClan

Thank you, if Southern conservatives are unnecessary to the Republican party as it stands right now, then we can shake the dust from our feet. We won’t get far without it, but they won’t get far without us and still remain a party of conservative principles. If they don’t care about conservative principles anymore, then it’s not the party for conservatives anyway.


63 posted on 01/21/2009 7:30:35 AM PST by mrsmel (Barry the black's president, not mine)
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To: DoughtyOne; Islander7
Conservatives to GOP = Blacks to DNC

The analogy may be even better than you think.

That is while the blacks and conservatives are the most ardent party supporters of the dems and repubs, and they may also feel like they are taken for granted,

IT IS ALSO TRUE THAT THE MODERATES WHO DETERMINE CLOSE ELECTIONS REGARD THE BLACKS AND LEFTISTS AND THE CONSERVATIVES AS LUNATIC NUTCASES.

64 posted on 01/21/2009 7:43:57 AM PST by staytrue (YES WE CAN, (everyone should get in the practice of saying it, it will soon be mandatory))
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To: WildcatClan; MARTIAL MONK
There is no room for a George Wallace faction of the Republican Party in our big tent. I wonder if Martial Monk is aware that his statement is self-contradictory.
65 posted on 01/21/2009 7:51:06 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (I want to "Buy American" but the only things for sale made in the USA are politicians)
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To: neverdem
That could backfire. McCain needs to be defeated in a primary challenge.
66 posted on 01/21/2009 7:55:56 AM PST by calex59
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To: neverdem
It's about advancing a cause -- and defending America --, not party loyalty.

But it's almost always best to vote for the Pub in the general, and it's extraordinarily STUPID not to cut them slack on certain issues and votes.

It still amazes me that self-defined "conservatives" campaigned against Rick Santorum.

67 posted on 01/21/2009 7:57:00 AM PST by Tribune7 (Obama wants to put the same crowd that ran Fannie Mae in charge of health care)
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To: neverdem

I totally agree with your premise. To divide the Conservative Movement from the Republican Party would be sheer folly. Of course we could all run off in our own separate directions. Some could join the miniscule Libertarian and American Independent and Reform Parties. But, if history is any guide, these folks would simply be retreating to the political Twilight Zone of American politics. America has historically been a two-party nation and it’s best to be where the action is. Besides, with the occaisional exception of the two GOP senators from Maine, liberal Republicanism is virtually an extinct species especially as the gravity of the Party has shifted south and west.

As a practicing Catholic, I was stunned and appalled at the sheer size and scope of the pedophile priest scandal a few years back. What did I do about that? Rather than leaving the Church in total disgust, I decided to get even more active. I have since become a 4th degree Knight of Columbus and a eucharistic minister at my church. I pray the rosary once a week and try to attend Mass twice a week. The Roman Catholic Church, over 2,000 years old, and the world’s oldest Christian church, has endured more than its share of scandal over its long and rich history. There always will be wicked men in any organization you can think of: the Church, the military, the police department, corporate America etc. This is human nature and it never changes. There is human weakness and fallibility in all organizations no matter how old, great, or well-intended. I could no longer abandon the Republican Party than I could the Catholic Church.

Rather than scorning the GOP, let’s work together to rebuild it and make it a formidable force of opposition to the Socialistic policies of BHO and the DemocRAT Party. The Republican Party is now the only institution of its size that can effectively oppose BHO’s plans to re-make America. We can quibble all we want among ourselves, but there is no escaping this basic fact.


68 posted on 01/21/2009 9:08:15 AM PST by Welcome2thejungle
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To: neverdem

It is not a problem for me. I am joined already with many ConservswhoarePubs and want our Party back. We are already meeting, blogging, writing, forming alliances to get the RNC and others back on the Reagnesque level. We are not even going to deal with the RINOS. They can stay but they will not be brought into these type of conserv underground groups forming to take back the GOP. We want it to be a 50 state effort and if it takes years, so be it. Buckley and the rest waited almost 30 yrs. to see fruition. It can be done with solid answers, a New Contract, stopping socialism and pacifism and standing up for innovations without dissing capitalism or democratic-republican ideals.


69 posted on 01/21/2009 11:08:05 AM PST by phillyfanatic ( iT)
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To: neverdem

The GOP destroyed itself by abandoning Constitutional small government principles.


70 posted on 01/21/2009 11:13:41 AM PST by mysterio
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To: DoughtyOne

If most Republicans much less every Republican would leave the GOP, we wouldn’t need the party anymore.


71 posted on 01/21/2009 2:44:42 PM PST by Maximum Scrunch
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; justiceseeker93; ..

Thanks neverdem. It’s interesting — the global warming hoax has as its prime persona none other than Al Gore — and he will be the first high-profile target of Obama’s purge. The US can’t afford the nonsense, and the issue was only sustained as one of many bludgeons against the Bush administration. Now it will be dropped and opponents to it coopted into the Demwit single party state.


72 posted on 01/21/2009 6:39:04 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: neverdem

BTTT


73 posted on 01/21/2009 10:56:47 PM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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