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No you made it about you: Also, I believe I explained to you that I thought the first season was great. That season got me hooked. It took almost two full seasons of pure trash before I finally decided that it was going to continue sucking from here on out and was never going to go back to being a good show. Thanks to the wonders of the internet, however, I am able to check in on any episode I want now and then just to see where they've gone with the show, without having to tune in on the date and time that they air. The funny part is that I can skip 10 episodes and still not be lost, because, generally speaking, nothing ever really happens. Oh sure, there's a lot of "Days of Our Lives" melodrama that goes on, but very little to move the whole of the story forward. Here's the punchline about the supposed "leftist" stuff in entertainment and whether or not such entertainment should be fled from at high speed: Patton. Now if you're a film buff that's all you need. But I'll assume for the sake of clarity that you're not. Patton is a leftist anti-war movie, anti-Viet Nam war in specific ant-war in general. And this isn't my interpretation, this comes straight from the mouths of the producers, writers, director and even some of the stars of the movie. It is leftist propaganda. Of course it also is one of the greatest war movies, greatest movies period, ever made, and 30 plus years later conservatives love it and liberals hate it. So then the question is why. It does not fail as an anti-war movie, it does a very good job of showing the horrors of war and nobody comes out of the movie wanting more wars. The movie doesn't really fail at anything. The makers forgot something important: nobody sane is pro-war. Nobody likes war, conservatives realize some wars need to be fought but we don't actually like it. So in making a no holds barred anti-war movie they made a non-flinching excellent war movie. You see sometime leftist propaganda just can't survive in the face of high quality entertainment. So even if you're right about BSG, which you're not but we'll pretend, I and other viewers don't give a damn. It's an entertaining show, it has strong drama, and a lot of that strong drama comes from things you object to. In my book moral clarity makes for shallow boring drama, making the characters figure out right and wrong is more interesting than having it be painfully obvious. If you don't like it that's fine, but stop trying to save me and the other fans, we're big kids.

No you made it about you:

Give it up already. You've already shown that you have limited debating skills. I shouldn't have to explain this to you, but a person can speak with authority about himself and about what he believes, but you, when pressed, fall into some fantasy land where you imagine you can speak for others, and you merely go for ad hominem after ad hominem. Can you see the difference? You need to learn to defend your arguments on their own merits. Otherwise, it is impossible to take you seriously.

It's an entertaining show, it has strong drama, and a lot of that strong drama comes from things you object to. In my book moral clarity makes for shallow boring drama, making the characters figure out right and wrong is more interesting than having it be painfully obvious.

People who have that much trouble with moral clarity live in trailer parks and have warrants out for their arrest.

Sure, real people make mind-numbingly stupid choices here and there, but they generally learn not to do it too often to avoid the aforementioned trailer park/arrest warrant situation.

If you were living on the ragged edge of existence portrayed in BSG, it wouldn't take much self-destructive stupidity at all to push you right over the edge.