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U.S. stimulus not enough, TARP bailout misused: Soros
Reuters on Yahoo ^ | 1/19/09 | Lisa Lambert

Posted on 01/19/2009 8:11:03 PM PST by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The stimulus plan the U.S. government is currently considering is necessary to help American citizens, but it will likely not reverse the country's economic decline, hedge fund manager and billionaire philanthropist George Soros said on Monday.

"It is not enough to turn the situation around," Soros told the U.S. Conference of Mayors about the $850 billion proposal to increase spending and cut taxes.

The plan, which was introduced in the U.S. House of Representatives last week and will likely be passed by next month, will help state and local governments balance their budgets and preserve important social services, Soros said.

At the same time, the $700 billion financial bailout known as TARP for Troubled Assets Relief Program had been carried out in a "haphazard and capricious way" and "without proper planning," he said.

"Unfortunately it was misused and the way it was done has poisoned the well. It has created tremendous ill will toward putting up more money," Soros said.

For more than a year, the United States has been crippled by a recession that was triggered by a housing market downturn. ...

The government stepped in with the TARP to inject liquidity into struggling firms. Last week, President-elect Barack Obama requested Congress release the second half of the funds.

Soros advocated using bailout money to recapitalize banks, but said the $350 billion would not be enough. He said such a move would take more than the entire $700 billion.

The bursting housing bubble "acted like a detonator that exploded a much larger bubble," he said.

"The economies of the world are falling off a cliff. This is a situation that is comparable to the 1930s. And once you recognize it, you have to recognize the size of the problem is much bigger," he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bailout; misused; soros; stimulus; tarp

1 posted on 01/19/2009 8:11:04 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
hedge fund manager and billionaire philanthropist

They forgot to include "convicted felon".

2 posted on 01/19/2009 8:17:01 PM PST by Ben Hecks
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To: NormsRevenge
Wasn't Soros one of the guys behind the "open borders" deal?

If so, he must bear his share of the responsibility for torpedoing the value of housing through overbuilding with the use of low cost Mexican labor.

3 posted on 01/19/2009 8:17:08 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: NormsRevenge

If I want any crap out of Georgie Soros, I’ll unscrew his head and dip it out. He needs to shut up and just go away. He played a big part in getting us into this mess.


4 posted on 01/19/2009 8:19:51 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (CIA Director!....So easy, a caveman can do it!)
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To: Ben Hecks

Also the architect behind the October market implosion of financial stocks. He and his hedge fund pals with Schumer wrecked Indy Mac. Last week he and his pals bought it with govt money.


5 posted on 01/19/2009 8:22:27 PM PST by Frantzie
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To: NormsRevenge
Also, he said, it should create more money to offset the collapse of credit and then rapidly pull that cash out of the system when inflation emerges. The government would have to be very nimble in the timing of such moves, he said.

If we could pull the money out at exactly the right moment, we'd be soooooo good we'd never have gotten in this mess in the first place...

6 posted on 01/19/2009 8:26:58 PM PST by GOPJ ("A consensus of 100 scientists is undone by one fact." - - Einstein (take that Al Gore))
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To: Frantzie

His philanthropy must be focused in the right places - I have have seen him testifying before a Congressional committee twice in the past four months. Here’s an article on his conviction in France:

http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/06/14/business/soros.php


7 posted on 01/19/2009 8:30:31 PM PST by Ben Hecks
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To: NormsRevenge

So we should do what Soros thinks is best? What do we not know?

From American Thinker
September 29, 2008
By Ed Lasky

How allies of George Soros helped bring down Wachovia Bank

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/how_allies_of_george_soros_hel.html


Soros has developed an empire of so-called 527 groups, putatively independent political activists groups that have influence within the Democratic Party. These 527 groups include the Center for American Progress, MoveOn.Org, Human Rights Watch, Media Matters and a slew of other like-minded groups .

This set of political organizations also includes the International Crisis Group, whose foreign policy staff is likely to contain the embryonic future of the State Department in an Obama Administration . Eli Pariser, who heads MoveOn.Org, boasts about his group’s role in the Democratic Party:

“Now it’s our party: we bought it, we own it, and we are going to take it back.”

The top four donors to these 527 groups in the last Presidential election cycle (2004) were Soros, Peter Lewis of Progressive Insurance, Steven Bing, and Herbert and Marion Sandler . Collectively they gave 78 million dollars to left-leaning 527 groups. That was just in 2004. They have become much more ambitious over the last few years.
Soros, Lewis, and the Sandlers form a core group of billionaire activists and Democrat partisans who have formed a group called The Democracy Alliance. They realized that they could magnify their power by working in unison and tapping other wealthy donors to further their agenda (the superb Boston Globe article “Follow the money” is a good primer on how money and 527 groups have come together to have a huge impact on politics in America).

The Democracy Alliance is a major avenue to help them achieve their goals. The roster of its growing membership consists of a list of billionaires and mere multi-millionaires who collectively hope to give upwards of 500 million dollars each year to further promote a left-wing agenda. A partial roster of the Democracy Alliance membership can be found here.

Half a billion dollars a year can purchase a great deal of influence.


8 posted on 01/19/2009 8:31:44 PM PST by Bhoy
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To: NormsRevenge
The worse the left makes this sound, the more they can point to the incredible job Obama did when the economy recovers. Where was Soros when we were being told during the Clinton administration that cyclical economic downturns and recession were a thing of the past, and wouldn't happen anymore? Wasn't that shortly before the dot com bust?

There are many contributing factors responsible for our current economic woes, and plenty of blame to go around, but the social engineering of the Soros-backed left has been one of the biggest. The irony is that in their quest to ‘spread the wealth’ the left has contributed to one of the biggest losses of overall US wealth in history, and ultimately the people who will suffer the most are those the left thinks they are helping.

9 posted on 01/19/2009 8:35:04 PM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: NormsRevenge

Get the noose for this idiot.


10 posted on 01/19/2009 8:36:46 PM PST by VRWC For Truth (Throw the bums out who vote yes on the bail out)
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To: NormsRevenge

Soros is the hidden money behind Obama. Someday, someone will connect the dots and put this slime in jailed, then stripped of his citizenship and deported. It couldn’t happen to a better crook!


11 posted on 01/19/2009 8:38:54 PM PST by WellyP
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To: Bhoy

Sorry—but Wachovia bank went down cause of Golden West & irresponsible lending afterwards.Even your link blames the Sandlers and just tries to link them saying they donate to left wing causes. Soros is nuts if he thinks we can get away with what he suggests—and even he seems to admit that—but he is right about the world’s economies are going off a cliff.


12 posted on 01/19/2009 9:02:28 PM PST by rb22982
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To: NormsRevenge

Soros? The mastermind of evil? The man who would buy the world, starting with the USofA?

THAT Soros?

Whatever he says, do the opposite.


13 posted on 01/19/2009 9:10:23 PM PST by HighlyOpinionated ("...there are two things in Washington that are unbalanced—the budget and the liberals." R Reagan)
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To: NormsRevenge
""The economies of the world are falling off a cliff. This is a situation that is comparable to the 1930s. And once you recognize it, you have to recognize the size of the problem is much bigger," he said."

I guess I ought to go buy the canning jars as my neighbor suggested.

14 posted on 01/19/2009 9:12:03 PM PST by blam
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To: NormsRevenge

Hey Georgie-girl, how about YOU fund the next bailout?


15 posted on 01/19/2009 9:12:38 PM PST by informavoracious
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To: NormsRevenge
The bursting housing bubble "acted like a detonator that exploded a much larger bubble," he said...crocodile tears - Soros got rich betting against the British currency - I wonder how much he made betting against the US mortgage markets - for that matter, I wonder how much his flunkies in the Soros-owned Democrat party helped manipulate the markets (by denying there was any trouble with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac until it was too late) so that he could make big bucks.....
16 posted on 01/19/2009 9:25:48 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: GOPJ
If we could pull the money out at exactly the right moment, we'd be soooooo good we'd never have gotten in this mess in the first place...

OK, I understand how the government puts more money into the system, just print it and spend it.

But, how do they take money out at any time, right or wrong? I always thought that was called deflation, and if you thought inflation was bad, deflation causes more pain.

17 posted on 01/19/2009 10:25:58 PM PST by CurlyDave
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To: NormsRevenge

The world will be much safer when this NAZI collaboraor dies. He’s much too old and hateful to last too much longer.


18 posted on 01/19/2009 10:46:54 PM PST by TheThinker (Shame and guilt mongering is the Left's favorite tool of control.)
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To: GOPJ

The 1907 financial panic was over in a month.

In response the Federal Reserve Act was done.

Now we still have panics, they are worse, cost more and last longer. Recessions last years and depressions decades.

Its almost as if the government was involved.

Thank God we have the Federal Reserve, eh?


19 posted on 01/19/2009 10:48:21 PM PST by Leisler (I'm spending my country's inheritances)
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To: CurlyDave

They raise interest rates.

So, supposedly, we won’t have inflation and high interest rates because the Federal Reserve which couldn’t stop what is happening, and isn’t making things better....is....someday...going to get it right....and we are all going to live in little English cottages and be woken up late in the morning by nuzzling unicorns and rainbows.


20 posted on 01/19/2009 10:54:48 PM PST by Leisler (I'm spending my country's inheritances)
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