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To: rxsid; All

This executive order deals with “constract personnel” that are doing governmental functions like Blackwater. It does not affect the POTUS.

Additionally, Mike Ritz IS NOT A U.S. CONGRESSMAN. He is a State Representative in the Oklahoma legislature.

There is nothing of significance here.

I am one of those that think’s PE Obama’s birth credentials are probably questionable and he may not be a “natural born citizen.”

However, I am really starting to doubt the credibility of Ed Hale. After the big stunt about how the Divorce decree was going to blow the lid of Obama and how his BC was at a port of entry, I don’t take the man seriously anymore. It was another dead end after extreme drama and hype.

Oklahoma State Rep. Ritz is trying to get a law passed in Oklahoma that will require proof of citizenship before presidential candidates can be placed on a ballot there. It is a great idea, but it won’t get through the legislature, and it definitely wouldn’t be signed by the Democrat governor of Oklahoma.


14 posted on 01/19/2009 1:49:08 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Sola Veritas
Agreed, I don't put much trust in Ed Hale either.

The post in question didn't come from him though, it says (the person posting) was on listening to Ed's program when they heard Congressman Mike Ritz talking about this.

18 posted on 01/19/2009 1:59:48 PM PST by rxsid
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To: Sola Veritas
Also, a state cannot impose additional requirements on elections to federal offices--which is why Congressional term limits can only come from Congress (fat chance). In U.S. TERM LIMITS, INC. v. THORNTON(1995) the Supreme Court ruled (in the usual 5-4 split, with Kennedy in the majority) that
". . . the Constitution prohibits States from imposing congressional qualifications additional to those specifically enumerated in its text. Petitioners' argument that States possess control over qualifications as part of the original powers reserved to them by the Tenth Amendment is rejected for two reasons. First, the power to add qualifications is not within the States' pre-Tenth-Amendment "original powers," but is a new right arising from the Constitution itself, and thus is not reserved. Second, even if the States possessed some original power in this area, it must be concluded that the Framers intended the Constitution to be the exclusive source of qualifications for Members of Congress, and that the Framers thereby "divested" States of any power to add qualifications."

Nor can the Court agree with petitioners' related argument that (term limits are) a permissible exercise of state power under the Elections Clause, Art. I, 4, cl. 1, to regulate the "Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections." A necessary consequence of that argument is that Congress itself would have the power under the Elections Clause to "make or alter" a measure such as (term limits), a result that is unfathomable under Powell v. McCormick. Moreover, petitioners' broad construction is fundamentally inconsistent with the Framers' view of the Elections Clause, which was intended to grant States authority to protect the integrity and regularity of the election process by regulating election procedures, see, e.g., Storer v. Brown, 415 U.S. 724, 730 , 733, not to provide them with license to impose substantive qualifications that would exclude classes of candidates from federal office.

While this case dealt with term limits, there really is no distinguishing facts that would allow a different decision regarding presidential primaries. The Constitution does not provide for state enforcement of the "natural-born citizen" clause, so any enforcement will have to come from Congress.
32 posted on 01/19/2009 3:10:22 PM PST by DeepThought42 (No mercy, no quarter.)
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To: Sola Veritas

“However, I am really starting to doubt the credibility of Ed Hale.”

Isn’t that one of the M O’s of leftists propaganda is to attack the messinger and try to smear the messinger as a way of discrediting the messinger? Even when they may have very true and real information. How many times have we seen government operatives, or heard of government involvement in the suppression of information that may implicate high ranking officials?
People with that kind of info routinely have accidental deaths like car wrecks, drowning, suicide, etc. I know it may be easy to diss the message, but considering I have little faith in much of our elected government, I am taking the messinger seriously for now..


48 posted on 01/19/2009 4:50:04 PM PST by o_zarkman44 (Since when is paying more, but getting less, considered Patriotic?)
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To: Sola Veritas

“I am really starting to doubt the credibility of Ed Hale.”

Ain’t that the truth.


50 posted on 01/19/2009 4:56:31 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Liberals have neither the creativity nor the confidence to understand the truth of conservatism)
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To: Sola Veritas
I am one of those that think’s PE Obama’s birth credentials are probably questionable and he may not be a “natural born citizen.” However, I am really starting to doubt the credibility of Ed Hale. After the big stunt about how the Divorce decree was going to blow the lid of Obama and how his BC was at a port of entry, I don’t take the man seriously anymore. It was another dead end after extreme drama and hype.

I'm with you. I am almost positive bo can't show his bc and that he is a liar and usurper. But Ed Hale is beginning to look just as bad. Then the INS thing which turned out to be bs. If you had a document from a POE would you announce it to the entire country until you had it in your hand? That is just ridiculous and not believable.

54 posted on 01/19/2009 6:36:29 PM PST by mojitojoe ( A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves)
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To: Sola Veritas

“However, I am really starting to doubt the credibility of Ed Hale. After the big stunt about how the Divorce decree was going to blow the lid of Obama and how his BC was at a port of entry, I don’t take the man seriously anymore. It was another dead end after extreme drama and hype.”

I’m afraid you are right. I am a birther, but he is downgrading the validity of this question with his drama BS.


67 posted on 01/19/2009 7:52:21 PM PST by autumnraine
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