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1 posted on 01/19/2009 1:04:40 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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ping!


2 posted on 01/19/2009 1:06:07 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
This discovery, as with so many awkward discoveries (i.e. awkward for evolution) previously, will no doubt end up displaying the ingenuity of evolutionists in making any fact, predicted or not, fit their materialistic worldview.
4 posted on 01/19/2009 1:15:12 PM PST by valkyry1
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I screwed up on the title. Could someone change it to the proper title? Thank you—GGG

Title:

Skippy surprises scientists


5 posted on 01/19/2009 1:15:29 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

I get so excited thinking about the day when we will be able to understand the staggering complexity of what God has done, able to see a million intricacies that we cannot now imagine.

In the beginning was the Word...

I believe one of the layers of meaning of “Word” in this context will be that of information. An unimaginable amount of information that all works perfectly together, a “matrix” of reality.

MM


6 posted on 01/19/2009 1:16:48 PM PST by MississippiMan
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To: GodGunsGuts

I thought you were talking about “Skippy” Algore.


11 posted on 01/19/2009 1:28:03 PM PST by wxgesr (I want to be the first person to surf on another planet!)
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To: GodGunsGuts
As usual Carl Wieland misrepresents science in pursuit of his own religious agenda. How can you trust a guy with his abysmal track record?

From the USA Today article on the web:

And they've found the Aussie icon has more in common with humans than scientists had thought. The kangaroo last shared a common ancestor with humans 150 million years ago.

"We've been surprised at how similar the genomes are," said Jenny Graves, director of the government-backed research effort. "Great chunks of the genome are virtually identical." ...

The scientists also discovered 14 previously unknown genes in the kangaroo and suspect the same ones are also in humans, Graves said.

Scientists have already untangled the DNA of around two dozen mammals, including mice and chimps, which are closer to humans on the evolutionary timeline. But Graves said it's the kangaroo's distance from people that make its genetic map helpful in understanding how humans evolved.

By lining up the genomes of different species, scientists can spot genes they never knew existed and figure out what DNA features have stayed the same or changed over time. Elements that have remained the same are usually important, Graves said [emphasis added].

"Great chunks of the genome are virtually identical..." eh? What Carl leaves out is that this is generally the case! And he leaves out the statements that quantify the actual distance--separation 150 million years ago. That's not exactly a first cousin, now is it?

Is there no limit to the obfuscation and misrepresentation that we can expect from creation "science?"

13 posted on 01/19/2009 1:30:41 PM PST by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

The deconstruction has begun. My cousin the ‘roo is distant; not a kissing (yech!) cousin.


15 posted on 01/19/2009 1:41:19 PM PST by YHAOS
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To: GodGunsGuts

I always knew peanut butter was too complex to have formed naturally!


16 posted on 01/19/2009 1:53:58 PM PST by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: GodGunsGuts

Captain obvious may be in order here.

Two eyes
Two ears
Same internal organs in roughly the same place
Same number of limbs
Fur
Live birth
Nursing young

There are a whole lot of similarities between kangaroos and humans. Why wouldn’t much of the DNA be similar?

Duh!


18 posted on 01/19/2009 2:00:07 PM PST by Poser (Sexual Chunky Monkey and willing to fight for oil)
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To: GodGunsGuts

For those who wish to get in touch with their “inner kangaroo” large belly packs are available on the internet at quite reasonable prices for quite unreasonable people.

That humans have kangaroos as ancestors is demonstrated by the popularity of Pogo sticks and high jump sporting events.
However, true jumping ability was never developed as early “man-garoos” tended to jump off really high places and those that survived developed the strong legs seen in ambulance chasing lawyers.


19 posted on 01/19/2009 2:02:05 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Here’s one of Jenny Grave’s (the lead researcher in the article) other notable findings:

“There are two models for the Y chromosome,” she said. “The model we were all brought up with was the Y as a macho little thing because if you have a Y you’re male and that’s it. But it turns out that’s only because the Y chromosome has the SRY gene on it. The other theory is that the Y is a selfish sort of entity and it grabs genes from other parts of the genome that are handy in males.

“But our work on comparative mapping says that the Y is merely a wimp, a relic of the X chromosome. It started off being identical to the X but over millions of years it has been losing genes and there are hardly any left. This, of course, makes men very anxious.”


21 posted on 01/19/2009 2:20:27 PM PST by cacoethes_resipisco
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To: GodGunsGuts

Creationist misunderstanding doesn’t surprise.

“The first thing I want to do is show you what’s being done in sequencing genomes, and how the sequenced animals are related to each other. Genomes of a number of different placental mammal species have been sequenced, including the human genome, which has been sequenced to a very great depth (ie multiple times). We also have the sequences for chimps, mice, rats, dogs, cats, and even the elephants are now lined up for sequencing. But these animals are actually all rather closely related. They shared a common ancestor only 100 million years ago, and that isn’t enough time for the genome to have changed sufficiently for us to get the maximal information out of it. If we go to the other extreme and look at animals very distantly related – that is birds, frogs and even fish – they share a common ancestor with mammals 300 or 400 million years ago and that’s too far because now the sequence is so different it’s actually hard to line up.

Wouldn’t it be lovely if there were some animals in the middle? Well, that’s exactly where Australian animals are. Marsupials and monotremes last shared a common ancestor with humans about 200 million years ago, so they’re exactly in the right spot to give us maximal information that we need to make these comparisons...”
Jenny Graves, Ph.D.
3 May 2006
http://www.science.org.au/sats2006/graves.htm


22 posted on 01/19/2009 2:24:31 PM PST by cacoethes_resipisco
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To: GodGunsGuts
If Skippy surprises them, just wait 'til they try Jif! Much better, IMNSHO!
23 posted on 01/19/2009 2:32:58 PM PST by TrueKnightGalahad (When you're racing...it's life. Anything that happens before or after is just waiting.)
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No wonder I feel so hoppy!


25 posted on 01/19/2009 3:41:56 PM PST by LurkedLongEnough (Music washes away the dust of every day life. ---Art Blakey)
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