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Another warmer than normal year, 2008 ties for 8th place overall(Sheeple Alert)
LA Times ^

Posted on 01/19/2009 7:21:49 AM PST by PROCON

WASHINGTON (AP) — Last year was the eighth warmest year on record, according to the National Climatic Data Center.

The world's temperature in 2008 tied that of 2001 according to the center, a division of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

Preliminary calculations show the world's average temperature for 2008 was 0.88 degree Fahrenheit above the 20th Century average of 57.0 degrees F.

The ranking means that all of the 10 warmest years on record have occurred since 1997.

Climate scientists around the world have raised concerns about global warming caused by the so-called greenhouse effect in which chemicals, largely generated by human activity, trap solar radiation.

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To: PROCON
Blame the Russians.

"Posters at Watts Up have commented on the ongoing consistently high anomalous temperatures from Russia. I have noticed this too. In light of the erroneously posted data for October, I took a look at the monthly NCDC climate reports back to January 2007. By my eyeball estimate the results from Russia are almost all on the high side. Some I classified as very highs are massively high."

41 posted on 01/19/2009 8:24:57 AM PST by GBA
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To: PROCON

This is a lie.


42 posted on 01/19/2009 8:26:47 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (CIA Director!....So easy, a caveman can do it!)
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To: PROCON; Fiddlstix; TenthAmendmentChampion; Horusra; CygnusXI; Entrepreneur; Defendingliberty; ...
Thanx !

 




Beam me to Planet Gore !

43 posted on 01/19/2009 8:27:58 AM PST by steelyourfaith
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To: ilgipper

“I would like to believe the first, but who knows which sources are accurate anymore.”

That is the bigger issue. The information comes from so many sources, and is so totally contradictory that people end up believe whatever they want to believe. There are sources to totally back up almost any position.

It really is a mess.


44 posted on 01/19/2009 8:28:18 AM PST by brownsfan (We are sooooo screwed.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Maybe they are talking about So Cal. They did have the warm temperatures this year. No one else had warm temperatures, anywhere.


45 posted on 01/19/2009 8:30:06 AM PST by Eva (CHANGE- the post modern euphemism for Marxist revolution.)
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To: ilgipper
And, why has sea ice reformed to levels we haven't seen since 1979, during global cooling hysteria?

Something isn't adding up.

46 posted on 01/19/2009 8:32:37 AM PST by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: ilgipper

No contradiction: the maximum avg global temperature (since records were kept) as computed by NOAA occurred in 1998. Since then the avg temperatures have gone down, but not by enough to stop displacing old records.

Actually, I’m still wondering whether this isn’t a lie. Wasn’t there a year in the 1930’s the was extraordinarily hot that the AGW types keep trying to paper over? And, it may well be a mistake as well: the urbanization of areas where temperature measurements are taken produce local temperature increases much in excess of planet-wide trends, and it’s not at all clear the AGW types are adequately correcting for this.


47 posted on 01/19/2009 8:34:35 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: GBA

Is this the same report as what turned out to be NASA using Sept. data from Russia in place of Oct. data.

Hansen should be fired and prevented from getting an academic job on the basis of scientific fraud.


48 posted on 01/19/2009 8:37:27 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: Wonderama Mama

“130 years of weather records seems like a drop in the bucket to me.”

BINGO - That one point alone is enough to kill the entire premise, but it is ignored like a beggar outside the Democratic National Convention.


49 posted on 01/19/2009 8:39:13 AM PST by HeadOn (Lord, please save us from Socialism.)
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To: PROCON

Yeah and I will believe this one when James Hansen finally tells the truth about all of his data diddling


50 posted on 01/19/2009 8:41:41 AM PST by the long march
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To: PROCON
all of the 10 warmest years on record

How long is the record?

Major climate variations seem to have a periodicity of 300-700 y.

What's the null hypothesis? That average surface temperature doesn't vary?

Make them state the absurdity of it every time.

51 posted on 01/19/2009 8:46:49 AM PST by Jim Noble (Long May Our Land Be Bright With Freedom's Holy Light)
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To: mikelets456

Goes to prove that the only two jobs you can be wrong and still keep the job...weatherman and Democratic politician.


52 posted on 01/19/2009 8:53:30 AM PST by chemicalman (This space for rent.)
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To: PROCON

The was a global warming skeptic on C-SPAN a few days ago who pointed out that a number of weather stations in Russia were shut down after the collapse of the Soviet Union, and that a lot of weather stations are in urban areas which are warmer than the surrounding countryside. Some are badly located near asphalt parking lots, etc. So a lot of the trend they are claiming to see may be an accident of where the weather recording stations happen to be located.


53 posted on 01/19/2009 8:54:30 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: PROCON

Tied with 2001, huh? If the globe is being warmed by man’s releasing of carbon... and that rate of release has continued to climb... shouldn’t the temperature be up in each successive year instead of being back to 2001 levels?

Almost seems like there is something else going on here... maybe that great big ball of fire in the sky?


54 posted on 01/19/2009 9:04:34 AM PST by r-q-tek86 (The U.S. Constitution may be flawed, but it's a whole lot better than what we have now)
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To: reformedliberal

It’s a non-toxic natural air freshener.

The “smell” goes away fairly soon once in it’s been poured out into a bowl and it absorbs odors.

[the mystery wasn’t that exciting after all, was it?] ...;]


55 posted on 01/19/2009 9:45:58 AM PST by Salamander ( Cursed with Second Sight.)
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To: headstamp 2
I really find this pronouncement hard to believe.

Of course we all understand that anecdotes are not evidence of much. But still, for the average global temps to be higher than other years, don't you at least have to have one single place on the earth with warmer than average weather?

Can somebody name one singe place on the planet that was in the news for warm weather in the past year? Does anybody live in a place that was warm last year? How about cooler than normal weather? The only places I can think of that have definitely had cooler than normal weather the last year are Asia, Europe, and North America. Must have been damn hot in Australia and Antarctica last year.

You get the feeling that these bastards are so dedicated to their cause that they are not at all beyond flat out lying.

56 posted on 01/19/2009 9:54:54 AM PST by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: Minn

The last 5-7 summers [didn’t really keep official track] here have been dramatically cooler than “normal”.

I notice this more than the average person for one reason only; Harleys.

We used ride the back roads late into the night on gloriously hot summer nights wearing only t-shirts and jeans.

For a very long time, now, “summer weather” hasn’t started until mid-July whereas before, riding season began in late March/early April and continued well into October.

Even in August, we now have to turn around and head for home at or near nighfall because even our leathers didn’t help against the high 50s/low 60s evening chill.

I went to Gettysburg Bike Week in -July- wearing leather pants and a full jacket and was not even a little ‘too warm’.

Every time these liars spout this ‘we’re all gonna roast to death!” crap, I think of my stolen summer joy.


57 posted on 01/19/2009 10:25:47 AM PST by Salamander ( Cursed with Second Sight.)
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To: PhilCollins

anecdotal evidence = data that doesn’t support their preconception


58 posted on 01/19/2009 11:22:30 AM PST by Only1choice____Freedom (Her couch is tougher than 0bama.)
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To: Salamander
I was hoping the vapors magically cleaned windows, actually! ;~)

I use baking soda for air freshening. I put a few drops of lavender oil in it in a shallow bowl. You have to change it fairly often, though. I put the used stuff in the vacuum cleaner canister.

59 posted on 01/19/2009 11:25:47 AM PST by reformedliberal
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To: PROCON
Here's what I got on NOAA's own site. Click and query the DB for yourself.

Annual 2000 - 2008 Data Values: (21st Century to date)

Annual 2000 - 2008 Average = 54.11 degF
Annual 2000 - 2008 Trend = -0.25 degF / Decade

Annual 1900 - 2000 Data Values: (20th Century)

Annual 1900 - 2000 Average = 52.80 degF
Annual 1900 - 2000 Trend = 0.09 degF / Decade

According to this data, the 20th Century average (mean) temp was 52.8F not 57.0F

60 posted on 01/19/2009 11:28:04 AM PST by AFreeBird
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