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College bound no more
Waterbury Republican-American ^ | January 18, 2009 | Tracey O'Shaughnessy

Posted on 01/18/2009 10:34:57 AM PST by Graybeard58

Ever since my son was a tot, I have squirreled away as much as I could muster for his college education.

Education is a priority in our family, but every year that goes by, it becomes clearer that nothing I could ever amass will dent what it will cost to send him to college. Despite his desire, college may be out of the question for him — and for anybody else earning less than an auto executive's salary.

The National Center for Public Policy and Higher Education reported recently that the rising cost of education has put it virtually out-of-reach for most Americans. By the time my son, 7, is college age, he may take his place among the first American generation to be less educated than its parents.

Indeed, that has already happened. We have fewer college-age kids enrolled in college than six other industrialized countries and even fewer American kids complete their degree. The kids in Japan, Ireland, Korea and France far outrank us in college completion rates. Why? Did you ever talk to an American high school graduate and compare it to the conversation you have with a European? It's like the difference between David Frost and Maury Povich.

Today's 25- to 34-year-olds are actually less educated than their Baby Boomer elders. Only 39 percent of adults 25 to 34 hold an associate's degree or higher in the U.S. Compare that to Canada, where the figure is 55 percent, or Korea, where the figure is 53 percent.

That's because while median family income has risen 147 percent from 1982 to 2007 in the U.S., the cost of college tuition and fees has soared 439 percent. How can anyone possibly afford that? They can't. Student borrowing has doubled in the last 10 years and the percent of a family's income it eats up is bigger than ever. A private, four-year institution will devour 76 percent of the income of a median American family.

"The middle class has been financing [college education] through debt," Patrick M.Callahan, president of the National Center for Public Policy and Higher Education, told The New York Times. "The scenario has been that families that have a history of sending kids to college will do whatever it takes, even if that means a huge amount of debt."

In Connecticut, for instance, we do a great job at preparing our kids for college — as long as they're rich. This state has the ignoble distinction of having the widest achievement gaps between rich and poor than any other state in the country, according to the U.S. Department of Education. So we get an "A" for preparing kids for school and an "F" for making it affordable, which is a bit like teaching a kid to ride a bike, and then not giving him one to ride on.

This might be merely onerous if the whole value of a college degree hadn't become so dubious.

Sure, all kinds of reports will tell you how much difference a college degree makes in terms of how much salary its recipients command, but, again, talk to some of these students and they'll make your eyebrows curl.

One study reported that less than half of college seniors knew that Yorktown was the battle that ended the American Revolution. A similar number could name the reason NATO was formed.

Not long ago, a college professor friend of mine wrote me about trying to prepare his students for a mid-term exam, which would rely heavily on the readings he assigned. "I've never really liked reading," one of his students sniffed. "I don't see the point in it." She added that she didn't think it was "fair" that, at the college level, her professor placed such an emphasis on reading.

Yes, the world is a cruel place.

Nobody who's visited a college dorm lately can deny that the place has been spruced up. In my day, the places looked like Soviet-era gymnasiums. Now they look like suites at the Doubletree. And the potentates presiding over these glittering dominions receive a king's ransom.

In November, the Chronicle of Higher Education reported that presidents at 12 private universities pulled down more than $1 million last year. (So embarrassed were several college presidents over their income that they actually gave back some of their salaries after the report came out.)

If this country believes, as Thomas Jefferson did, that education is the great equalizer, it needs to pull the plug on fripperies and sinecures and start doing a better job at teaching its kids.

Because at this price, it just isn't worth it.

Reach Tracey O'Shaughnessy at tosh@rep-am.com.


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To: fish hawk

Ans so is my son after years at Indiana University, and University of Colorado.

All it is anymore is indoctrination.

Smart kid was conservative until college.


21 posted on 01/18/2009 10:52:41 AM PST by dforest (Is there any good idea out there that Obama doesn't lay claim to anymore?)
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To: Graybeard58
One study reported that less than half of college seniors knew that Yorktown was the battle that ended the American Revolution. A similar number could name the reason NATO was formed.

I knew these things by 10th grade high school.
The problems stems from the last 20-30 years of liberal agenda in the Government controlled school system that has de-emphasized reading writing and arithmetic and heavily emphasized the spreading of the homosexual agenda, the environmental agenda and the socialism agenda. At the same time the government controlled schools have removed God, discipline, morals, patriotism and duty from the schools.

22 posted on 01/18/2009 10:53:00 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Coming to You From the Front Lines of Occupied America)
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To: svcw
“Hog wash, go to a state college or university...they are cheap.”

Agree (btw, corrected your spelling of cheep to cheap so not to embarrass we state college alum's).

This guy's son can go to a state school like I did. While going to school he can work a night shift at a truck stop like I did. When he graduates from high school he can join the army and utilize the GI bill like I did. Bottom line, tell the little punk to go figure out on his own how to get it done and stop the whining - same thing for his old man.

23 posted on 01/18/2009 10:53:14 AM PST by snoringbear (Government is the Pimp,)
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To: svcw; Graybeard58

Ditto on the hogwash.

D # 2 did real well in school, # 2 in the class, got a couple of acidemic scholarships, some federal student aid loans and some cash from us.

Hard work and a little savings is all it takes.

Just do it.


24 posted on 01/18/2009 10:53:45 AM PST by PeteB570 (NRA - Life member and Black Rifle owner)
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To: Tribune7

What does out of the road mean?


25 posted on 01/18/2009 10:53:53 AM PST by Lizavetta
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To: Graybeard58

Maybe if the author had a real job instead of writing for a newspaper, she’d be able to afford to send her boy to college.

Given the fact that the kid is only 7 years old, she’s got enough time to make a career change instead of going hysterical and whining like a typical liberal.


26 posted on 01/18/2009 10:53:53 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: dila813
Here's how it works. You pay $10,000 per year for your kid to attend a top tier medical school in Pakistan. Takes about 3 years. While there your son or daughter will dissect and examine about 15 cadavers (compared to sharing 1 if he or she studied in America).

He will get the opportunity to observe first hand rare and disturbing diseases many times ~ and if everything works out well, and your kid is bright and not a dolt, he'll become a very good diagnostician and will be called in regularly by top medical specialists in the United States.

I don't know if these guys get all that rich, but they're popular.

BTW, lest I forget to note it this time, not all the doctors coming from Pakistan are good. Many are, in fact, DOLTS ~ but their fathers were rich or powerful.

Now, back to the $10,000 per year, that'll get him room, board, tuition, fees, examinations, and a full education for two other poor but smart Pakistani kids. He or she may well be able to afford a scooter out of that 10 K.

If he's lucky he will develop a deep and abiding sympathy for the poorest of the poor. Just about everyone in America can afford to send their kid to medical school in Pakistan. We are truly blessed among nations.

27 posted on 01/18/2009 10:54:11 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Graybeard58
You suck it up and deal with it. 25K off the top, plus incidentals: that's what it cost me each year for four years to send my daughter to Elon University. For four years with no new cars, fix everything that breaks yourself, somehow, buy almost nothing new, no vacations, no luxury, pinch pennies: you can do it if you have the will. She did well, and now has a secure career with a good income for life. Four years, it was worth it.
28 posted on 01/18/2009 10:54:28 AM PST by PUGACHEV
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To: ottbmare

Actually, no: If a student is able to gain admission to Harvard, the money is their in scholarships and grants for them to attend, IIRC.


29 posted on 01/18/2009 10:55:40 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("Don't confuse what you got a right to do with what's right to do." Bill Bennett)
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To: snoringbear

oops, what can I say I was a pych major.


30 posted on 01/18/2009 10:55:53 AM PST by svcw (Great selection of gift baskets: http://baskettastic.com/)
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To: Post Toasties

Agreed...Junior College, if the students are motivated, is a bargain education...especially in CA...it’s like $25 a unit.


31 posted on 01/18/2009 10:56:27 AM PST by teg_76
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To: svcw

Took me 10 years. I went to grad school though. I took a semester off whenever I went broke.


32 posted on 01/18/2009 10:56:35 AM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: Graybeard58
"..college may be out of the question for him.."

"Well, the world needs ditch diggers, too."

33 posted on 01/18/2009 10:57:28 AM PST by Jaxter (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum.)
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To: teg_76

Is a “unit” the same as a credit? If so, that’s ridiculously expensive for a community college. I paid 35 bucks a credit for a 4 year degree in engineering at a state university.


34 posted on 01/18/2009 10:58:27 AM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: Graybeard58
I'm a victim “nothing I could ever amass will dent what it will cost to send him to college” whine, whine. Go in state, get a part-time job, get a student loan like most people do. If her child is seven she has time to save money and figure this out.
35 posted on 01/18/2009 10:59:52 AM PST by motherof 3
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To: Graybeard58

Get your undergrad in state, work after classes and during summers, and however else you fund the remainder, stay away from credit cards while in school. You should be able to stay under $10k in debt for 4 years of education (depending on the summer work you can get - and whether you can live with your parents during school/summers).

As for a “pedigree”, the bang-for-buck is much greater if you go to a tier-one school for a 2-year MA/MSc instead of the 4-year undergrad. During your Masters, you may have your tuition fully or partially waved (contingent upon 10-20 hrs a week of teaching/marking).


36 posted on 01/18/2009 11:00:12 AM PST by M203M4 (Bill Kristol: Piltdown conservative)
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To: M203M4

*waived


37 posted on 01/18/2009 11:00:24 AM PST by M203M4 (Bill Kristol: Piltdown conservative)
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To: fish hawk

Is there any hope for her to return to her roots?


38 posted on 01/18/2009 11:03:00 AM PST by mel (Obama- show me the BC)
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To: Tribune7

And stay at home. no way here:)


39 posted on 01/18/2009 11:03:59 AM PST by mel (Obama- show me the BC)
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To: fish hawk; All

Why not, at least in public colleges and universities, put an end to “cultural studies, black studies, womyn’s studies ad nauseum.” And how many psychologists and sociologists does society need at public expense?

Instead, emphasize our American history and heritage, constitutional government, free market economics (and the error of socialism and communism), scientific truth, and USEFUL professions that require and undergraduate/professional education like engineering, scientific research, business and accounting, medicine, and to a lesser extent, law and theology?

It sounds as if some of the students discussed in the article would be happier learning a trade at less cost in time and money to them, their parents, and the public. College should be reserved for those wishing, to some degree, to pursue scholarship.


40 posted on 01/18/2009 11:05:17 AM PST by GunsareOK
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