[Andrewksu]

Actually, solar is effective, but not without considering increasing efficency in other areas of the home. I am designing off the grid small homes, not for the sake of being green, but for self sufficiency.

A combination of wind and solar on a properly designed home will free you from the bonds of utilities.

Some sacrifices are made but the payback is worth it.

[I see my hands]

I know the claims.

I'll bet you a dollar your "off grid" homes are more accurately referred to as "on propane" homes.

Nonetheless, good luck with your endeavors.. sounds great and if you have any pics or literature on line I'd love to check your homes out.