Posted on 01/16/2009 4:42:53 AM PST by TornadoAlley3
Back in the day, a good report card earned you a parental pat on the back, but now it could be money in your pocket. Experiments with cash incentives for students have been catching on in public-school districts across the country, and so has the debate over whether they are a brilliant tool for hard-to-motivate students or bribery that will destroy any chance of fostering a love of learning. Either way, a rigorous new study — one of relatively few on such pay-for-performance programs — found that the programs get results: cash incentives help low-income students stay in school and get better grades.
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Back in 1990 I was dating a black girl who had just finished college and she related to me how every month she received a government check for staying in college. I never inquired whether this was available to white students also.
Yep. Students will be paid for good grades. Its just deferred.
Should drivers be paid to not get tickets?
Should people be paid to obey the law?
Not to me, but then I'm an old-fashioned sort :)
Suppose it was called a scholarship based on maintenance of a certain grade level.
Okay, I've got a sec to engage in some hair-splitting :)
I don't know of any scholarships that come with a lock. IOW, that the recipient knows with 100% certainly that he/she's gonna get one. That lack of certainty is what makes it a reward for achievement and not a bribe.
That said, what the heck is wrong with teaching kids that learning is forerver. That it's the one thing that can never be taken away from them. That developing a love for learning is a gift that will keep on giving to them their entire lives.
And talk about defining deviancy down combined with the soft bigotry of low expectations. Gad, what a morass.
(/rant)
:)
On second thought...how about a salary cap for schools?
This could be like the NFL. Schools with high test scores get more money from the taxpayers, but they are limited in how much they can spend paying students. Good students might then seek to be traded for better pay to an underperforming school with more room under its salary cap. In March, the School Board could actually hold a draft of rising 9th graders for entering high school.
It would not work because it is not fair. It would punish the naturally born stupid. It isn’t their fault they get bad grades. Pretty soon the libs would be lowering the standards for good grades even more. If that is possible.
Might as well just pay people for submitting to the leftist indoctrination and not worry about grades.
Placido was like Santa Clause on report card day. Looking over every child's card giving them praises and quarters and soliciting promises to do better next time should a child have a poor report card. We had six subjects, so with perfect attendance and conduct it was possible for every child to earn $2 for a perfect report card.
Placido was not a teacher and I think he believed by giving quarters, he was doing his part to better our education. He was in fact the school janitor. The way he dressed showed that he made little money and he lived alone in a shack (literally) on the wrong side of town. He didn't have much of a formal education and spoke in broken English. Report card day must have cost him a fortune in his eyes, but it was his was of contributing to our education.
That after a half century I can still remember his name, his face and his words of encouragement and praise attests to fact that Placido had an impact on me and my education.
The REAL need for a salary cap would be our present CONGRESS!
That is the mantra the shoutingandpointings have grown up with. The pay scale for grades is as follows:
Each “A” = $5
Each “B” = $1
Bring home a “C?” Not a problem. You do “average” work. Nothing wrong with being average: “meets minimum expectations.” HOWEVER, I have never received a bonus for average work—”meeting minimum expectations”—and neither will you. "Get" a "C" “C” in any class means you do not get a bonus for the “As” and “Bs” you "earned" in the others.
No weekly “allowance” here, either. That money goes into the college savings fund. Every now and then, I just slide them a few bucks here and there, maybe buy them something I know they want (as opposed to need) because I caught them doing something above and beyond the call of basic human decency and Christian Charity.
My 3 homeschoolers never received a grade of any kind until college.
Of course they were in college at the ages of 13, 12, and 13. All finished all general college courses and Calculus III by the age of 15, and the two younger had B.S. degrees in math by 18.
Dixie, you are “afterschooling”. The school is merely sending home the curriculum.
Writing assignments until late in the evening? Flash cards over the weekend? Do you understand? **YOU** and your son are doing 99% of the work at **home**!
So....When responsible parents such as yourself actually **DO** the teaching and your son, **himself**, does the learning, who will take credit for the higher than average standardized scores of the school? The teachers and principal of course!
What you are doing is absolutely no different than what I did with my homeschoolers. I am willing to bet my entire 401K plan that if we compared notes there would be little differences in how we both educated our children in the home.
Personally, I am convinced that **all** academically successful children are homeschooled. If they go to school, as your child does, it is called “afterschooling”. The only thing the school is doing is sending home a curriculum for the parents and child to follow.
That should be left to the parents. But I do:
A’s - $20
B’s - $10
C’s - $0
D’s - -$20
F’s - Draconian measures....
All this will do is make teachers find ways to give students “A’s” whether deserved or not. They don’t want to deny somebody money, especially in the inner-city schools, they could be threatened if they don’t give out the A. Bad, bad idea IMHO.
We too had a “pay for grades” with our five growing up once they reached Jr. High. No pay for gym, study hall, etc.
A’s=10 bucks, B’s=five bucks, C’s=nothing, D’s=you owe ME five bucks, F’s=you owe me 10.00 bucks.
Kids did not have to participate if they did not want to. All of them chose to though. I NEVER had to get on them to do homework. And I was never paid.
I just dished out 60 and 65 bucks for the last two report cards.
You have the mistaken belief that institutional schools actually **teach** something. They don't. They merely send home a curriculum for the parents to follow.
( See Dixie's post #29 with her supervising writing assignments and going over flash cards.)
It is the parents and the child himself who do 99% of the work in the home. Schools that appear to be successful have tons of “afterschooling” parents.
It is likely that not only is the typical government school model a complete an utter idiocy for the child of a dysfunctional home, its methods also retard the academic progress of kids in normal families as well.
With my own kids, the government school flat out **refused** to believe that my children were 3 and 4 years ahead of the assigned class work. I figured that I might as well officially homeschool. I was homeschooling anyway before and after their institutional school.
All this will do is make teachers find ways to give students “A’s” whether deserved or not.
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BINGO!
Students DO get paid for good grades.
The pay is called a good job.
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