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Bill would pull plug on reloading
The Standard Journal (Milton, PA) ^ | January 14, 2009 | Coni Marie Sheridan

Posted on 01/15/2009 6:56:58 PM PST by neverdem

Reloading ammunition in Pennsylvania may become a thing of the past if a bill currently in state legislature is passed.

According to the National Rifle Association-Institute for Legislative Action (NRA-ILA), “in the last year, so-called “encoded” or “serialized” ammunition bills have been introduced in 13 states — Arizona, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Indiana, Maryland, Mississippi, Missouri, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Tennessee and Washington.”

The bills, if passed, would require all bullets and cartridge cases to be marked with a code and registered to the owners in a computerized database, therefore, reloading would be outlawed.

“It (the bill) would eliminate reloading because there would be no way to serial it (the ammunition),” Rollin Anderson of Anderson’s Gun Shop in Watsontown said. “A lot of guys that handload (reload) are not happy about it.”

Anderson sells a lot of materials for ammunition reloading or handloading, which is when you reuse the cartridges to make your own ammunition.

“It would hurt a lot of industries,” he explained. There are so many components involved with reloading that would no longer be needed if the bill is passed, he said.

“Reloading is cost effective and is more accurate,” he added. “It (the bullet) holds a better pattern.”

Ammunition you already own could also be at risk as many of the bills state that people would be required to forfeit all personally owned “non-encoded” ammunition after a certain date. Therefore, reloading would actually be deemed illegal.

“I think it’s ridiculous!” commented State Rep. Merle Phillips. “They’d take away reloading which a lot of gun owners do to save money. It makes no sense.”

Along with encoding and registering ammunition, there would also be a five cent tax on each bullet sold, therefore, a minimum $2.50 increase per box would be enforced.

“People would still buy the loaded ammo, but it’s a lot more expensive (than reloading),” Anderson said.

According to the Ammunition Accountability Web site, the legislation was prompted by a “newly forming group” that includes “gun crime victims, industry representatives, law enforcement, public officials, public policy experts and more.”

However, Angus McClellan of the NRA-ILA Grassroots said, “this is a proposal by a commercial enterprise that has a patent on technology to imprint the codes. They are trying to create a demand for their product by making it mandatory. The owner of the company admitted on NRA News that his lobbying firm put up the whole thing.”

Sample legislation obtained from the Ammunition Accountability Web site states, “Bullet coding is a new and effective way for law enforcement to quickly identify persons on interest in gun crime investigations.”

State Rep. Merle Phillips disagrees.

“Criminals can still steal guns and ammunition,” he said.

Trooper Matt Burrows of the state police agrees with Phillips and said, “It (the encoding) would help, but I don’t know to what degree or how it would be implemented.”

According to McClellan, the NRA-ILA has been successfully fighting the passage of this legislation so far.

He said, “These bills are pending and will likely die at the end of the sessions, however, they will likely be reintroduced next session and sessions thereafter and will certainly pose significant threats.”

For more information on the Ammunition Accountability Act, visit www.ammunitionaccountability.com. You can also visit www.nraila.org for additional information and to find out what you can do to prevent this bill from being passed.

Coni Marie Sheridan:

570-742-9671

coni@standard-journal.com


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: ammocoding; banglist; nra; reloading
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To: TheConservativeParty
I like Sarah, but I think we could get Dick Cheney elected in four years (if Obozo fails).

What do you like better Cheney/Palin or Palin/Cheney? I kinda like Cheney/Palin. I just had a thought: how about Palin/Petraeus?

61 posted on 01/15/2009 8:33:47 PM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. - One of General Abram's men)
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To: MrB

>>I’m not at all impressed with “it can’t happen”.

I’m WAY more concerned with the fact and implications that there are those in power that WANT it to happen.<<

Exactly!


62 posted on 01/15/2009 8:37:59 PM PST by unkus
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To: hadaclueonce

Amen, brother.


63 posted on 01/15/2009 8:39:55 PM PST by unkus
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To: Ramcat

Yep-—one thing that even the Rat politicians in Pennsylvania understand is that if they try to impose gun and ammunition control in the Commonwealth then their political careers will effectively be over come election time. These silly bills are DOA.


64 posted on 01/15/2009 8:40:44 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: MHGinTN

Isn’t the scum, Murtha from PA? ... Didn’t Joe ‘Plugs’ Biden diss coal even while in coal country?...etc...
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YES
YES
YES

Sorry, didn’t think the sarcasm tag was really necessary on my orig post.


65 posted on 01/15/2009 8:47:09 PM PST by xrmusn
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

The Violent Crime Control Act of 1991 provides additional powers to the President of the United States, allowing the suspension of the Constitution and Constitutional rights of Americans during a “drug crisis”. It provides for the construction of detention camps, seizure of property, and military control of populated areas. This, teamed with the Executive Orders of the President, enables Orwellian prophecies to rest on whoever occupies the White House. The power provided by these “laws” allows suspension of the Constitution and the rights guaranteed in the Bill of Rights during any civil disturbances, major demonstrations and strikes and allows the military to implement government ordered movements of civilian populations at state and regional levels, the arrest of certain unidentified segments of the population, and the imposition of Martial Law.

That’s SHTF time


66 posted on 01/15/2009 8:51:03 PM PST by mojitojoe (Not my president.)
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To: american_ranger

Do it illigally, so what, they are so many laws, you break one everyday, anyway (and it’s second Amendment), I wouldn’t expect you to follow a DANGEROUS or IMMORAL law #1) Dangerous because you use less ammo to protect yourself, #2 Immoral because they require you to turn in “non-registered” ammo after a certain period of time: that’s called stealing, theft!


67 posted on 01/15/2009 8:52:23 PM PST by JSDude1 (R(epublicans) In Name Only SUCK; D(emocrats) In Name Only are worth their weight..)
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To: Vigilanteman

(I wonder how these geniuses expect to get the real criminals to obey the law)

What? Didn’t you hear? After 1/20/09 there will be no more criminals. There will be no need for them to feel bad about themselves. The only criminals will be Christians who will be punished


68 posted on 01/15/2009 8:55:23 PM PST by Glacier Honey
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To: neverdem

On in other words - bypass gun registration and go straight to bullet registration.


69 posted on 01/15/2009 8:55:33 PM PST by Celtman (It's never right to do wrong to do right.)
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To: mylife

(I agree with you. And the logistical nightmare of tracking trillions of bullets in a data base is absurd.
Who is going to pay for all this accounting?)

Well the tax payer of course!!! What a wonderful way to create wonderful government jobs with big pensions and unions.


70 posted on 01/15/2009 8:57:00 PM PST by Glacier Honey
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To: Glacier Honey

Cha Ching!


71 posted on 01/15/2009 8:58:40 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could be Farts)
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To: neverdem
5 cents a bullet would be the opening bid. It would go up in leaps, you can depend on it.

"We're going to hammer guns on the anvil of relentless legislative strategy! We're going to beat guns into submission!" ~Senator Charles Schumer, 1993

72 posted on 01/15/2009 9:04:57 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68
Thanks for the link. Chilling read ...

Perhaps it can be summed up succinctly in the words of arch-conservative activist Howard J. Ruff. "Since the enactment of Executive Order 11490, the only thing standing between us and dictatorship is the good character of the President, and the lack of a crisis severe enough that the public would stand still for it." JOe biden has already warned that Obama's rule is coming, and Rhambo Emanuel has admitted that no crisis should go unexploited. The fecal material is about to hit the rotary blades and a majority of dumbed down usurped americans will welcome it as the benevolent work of their almost black messiah. God have mercy upon US.

73 posted on 01/15/2009 9:08:36 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: mojitojoe
“That’s SHTF time”
~~~
True Dat!

Here's another from that link :

“EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000 allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.”

This Is Nothing But SLAVERY!!!

74 posted on 01/15/2009 9:09:57 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: neverdem

Buy your stuff from a store, in cash. No more internet purchases.


75 posted on 01/15/2009 9:10:31 PM PST by wastedyears (In Canada, Santa says "Ho Ho, eh?")
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To: dusttoyou

Nothing to differ about here. I know what their end game is as well as you do. This just seems like a fine opportunity to expose them as the liars that they are with regards to not intending to attack sportsmen. Criminals don’t reload, sportsmen do; therefore, they’re clearly full of shiite when they say they aren’t “going after” sportsmen. that’s my point. This is the kind of legislation that sparks grass roots brushfires that turn into political party consuming forest fires. more later


76 posted on 01/15/2009 9:12:01 PM PST by RC one
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To: american_ranger
“It (the bill) would eliminate reloading because there would be no way to serial it (the ammunition),”

Just a suggestion -- reloaders could simply start putting a name on every round of ammo reloaded ...

77 posted on 01/15/2009 9:13:41 PM PST by meadsjn (Socialists promote neighbors selling out their neighbors; Free Traitors promote just the opposite.)
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To: meadsjn

I saw a fellow reload some 12 ga shells with dimes,
They was all inscribed with “In God We Trust”


78 posted on 01/15/2009 9:16:49 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could be Farts)
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To: neverdem

I want to know whom in the Tennessee legislature is signed onto this effort, whom originated an response to the bill, and whom to hunt down if they pass this. They will not be representing any part of Tennessee int he next election cycle.


79 posted on 01/15/2009 9:17:30 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: neverdem
We see how efficient our 9% approval government is, and they're going to keep a tracking database on hundreds of millions of rounds of coded ammunition without screwing it all up? LOL! And how much is this gonna cost?

Let's see....I'm out at the gravel pit, plinking with my 9mm. I can't find all my brass, but someone else finds it later, commits a gun crime, and tosses my lost brass on the ground at the scene. I'm busted instead of him.

I swear, our legislators couldn't grow more stupid by the day if they spent all their waking hours working at it. Wait, they are working at it, and they're proving it every day.

80 posted on 01/15/2009 9:21:09 PM PST by FlyVet
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