All I know is this: Went to Turkey this summer - sat and spoke w/ a Turkish diplomat that was working on behalf of Turkey to try and get them into the EU - Turkey has almost given up hope of joining the EU and this guy told me they are upset and feel discrimated against - he feels the US is more accepting and integrated - I think they are really offended and POed. Right, Wrong or Indifferent - it is what it is and there are two sides to every story - the EU has apparently told them that they need to modernize their views in regards to Women etc. - The diplomat does not think it would matter - it’s because Turkey is over 95% Muslim.
And some in the EU want Turkey to become a full-fledged member????
What crap. They stopped us from transiting the country to invade Iraq from the north, probably prolonging the war and costing us casualties.
Turkey is not ethnically, culturally, or religiously a part of Europe.
Turkey is no ally of the US and shouldn’t be expected to be a reliable member of NATO
In the Bible, it shows the area of Turkey to be aligned with the Muslim nations against Israel. So, that does appear to be what is going to be happening...
Just another reason to acknowledge the wisdom of Pope Benedict XVI. he warned the EU not to admit Turkey to the EU as it did not have the traditions of western civilization.
NZ:Muslim Owned Businesses Stop Serving Israelis
Islam in Action | Jan. 15Th, 2009 | Christopher Logan
Posted on 01/15/2009 5:04:35 PM PST by Islaminaction
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2165433/posts
[snip] An Israeli family in New Zealand stopped into a local cafe to get lunch for their children, before placing their order the family was speaking in Hebrew. Hearing this the owner who is a Turkish Muslim asked them where they were from. [end]
A decade ago, Western and Israeli leaders could count on Turkey as an ally. A solid NATO member, Ankara took decisions based on pragmatic calculations of interest - and erred on the side of caution if at all. But under the rule of the Islamic conservative AKP, this has changed. In the face of Hamas rockets, Israel could have expected more understanding from a country long suffering from aggressive PKK terrorism. The vehemence with which Turkish leaders attacked Israel, and their apparent willingness to convey Hamas' position to the United Nations, came as a surprise to many. Some of this may be explained by pandering to the Islamic conservative AKP's hard-core base. But Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan's words - that Israel's actions will be punished by God and help lead it to self-destruction - are too significant to be taken lightly. Indeed, they are part of the trend of a Turkish government guided more by Islamic solidarity and anti-Western sentiment than by pragmatic calculations of interest. Indeed, Turkey's international behavior suggests that its attachment to the West is tenuous at best - and eroding... When president Turgut Özal decided to participate in Operation Desert Storm in 1990, he made Turkey a regional power in its own right, putting an end to talk of the country's reduced strategic value in the aftermath of the Cold War. Under successive governments in the 1990s, Turkey built strong relations with Israel, which branched out from the defense sector to culture, trade and tourism. This served both countries well... When Erdogan's AKP came to power in 2002, it portrayed itself as a very different brand of Islamists - as post-Islamists, in fact. Where his predecessors had shunned the EU, Erdogan embraced it; his rhetoric was free of the anti-Semitism and anti-Americanism of his forebears.
To keep in mind, many secular Turks were disillusioned with the U.S. government when it fully supported Erdogan’s AKP after it won re-election. Over half of Turks did not vote for AKP (which only got 47% of the vote). AKP got control of the govt based on a plurality, because the opposing secular parties could not unite and split the vote.
Many of those Turks have hoped for some condemnation of AKP’s creeping Islamization by the United States, which has yet to come.
In fact, some Turks feel the U.S. doesn’t care at all if Turkey becomes just like the Arab states or Iran - if it does, then why hasn’t the U.S. officially spoken out against AKP they ask.
Recep Tayyip Erdogan once made the statement that “Democracy is like a bus - you ride it to where you want to go, then you get off.”
He and his AKP party have always been essentially the “al Taqiyya” party. They have been gradually implementing a calculated, long-range strategy of deception and misdirection intended to subvert/transform from within and eventually replace Attaturk’s secular Turkey with a fully Islamist one. What they are doing in Turkey is the Islamist equivalent of the Gramscian/Fabian socialist strategy which is destroying the West.