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To: GodGunsGuts
Because all of God’s creatures deserve to know what science tells us about the glory of God’s creation.

That's not what you are doing at all. That would be an honest approach.

What you are doing is promoting a very narrow fundamentalist view of religion and creation, one shared by only a small percentage of Christians. And you are saying that the majority Christian view, which holds that science must be accorded its appropriate respect, is heresy or blasphemy or some such.

The Pope and a large majority of Catholics would most likely say you are totally wrong. And last I looked, Catholics are the single largest religious denomination on earth. Are you saying that both scientists and Catholics are all wrong?

And from your response to my post you have shown that this thread properly should have been posted in the Religion Forum. You are not doing science.

21 posted on 01/13/2009 7:19:57 PM PST by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Coyoteman

Why are you trying to drag Catholics into this? Are you Catholic?


32 posted on 01/13/2009 7:37:41 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: Coyoteman; GodGunsGuts
The Pope and a large majority of Catholics would most likely say you are totally wrong.

You're treading on dangerous ground, FRiend... Catholicism allows a pretty wide range of beliefs, until such time as scientists can provide a more workable explanation. Considering this, the ID viewpoint should be given consideration by serious Catholics, especially arguments such as Behe's irreducible complexity argument.

The only view that, to my knowledge, is completely unacceptible is that evolution, separate from God, is the mechanism by which all life came to be.

Oh, and also, be very careful making any argument based on what "a large majority of Catholics" believe. Besides being an example of the fallacy of appealing to the crowd, most Catholics aren't qualified to make a definitive call on the matter.

My seminary rector made a compelling argument based on Thomistic metaphysics for theistic evolution. Unfortunately, the explanation is too long and it's too late to write it all here.

34 posted on 01/13/2009 7:40:52 PM PST by GCC Catholic (0bama, what are you hiding? Just show us the birth certificate...)
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To: Coyoteman; GodGunsGuts

What you are doing is promoting a very narrow fundamentalist view of religion and creation, one shared by only a small percentage of Christians. And you are saying that the majority Christian view, which holds that science must be accorded its appropriate respect, is heresy or blasphemy or some such.

The Pope and a large majority of Catholics would most likely say you are totally wrong. And last I looked, Catholics are the single largest religious denomination on earth. Are you saying that both scientists and Catholics are all wrong?

And from your response to my post you have shown that this thread properly should have been posted in the Religion Forum. You are not doing science.


You seriously don’t get tired of hearing yourself lie, day in and day out do you Coyoteman?

WHEN will you understand liberals will not be allowed to undermine FR like they undermine science and virtually anything and everything else they touch?

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http://www.evolutionnews.org/2006/03/americans_overwhelmingly_suppo.html

Headline: “Americans Overwhelmingly Support Teaching Scientific Challenges to Darwinian Evolution, Zogby Poll Shows” From March 2006.

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74 posted on 01/13/2009 9:40:19 PM PST by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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