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To: metmom; Alamo-Girl; GodGunsGuts; CottShop; LeGrande; tacticalogic; hosepipe
I also think that what makes it all the more improbable is that for it to even begin to work, all the blind chances would have to be necessary.

But this doesn't answer the question: Necessary in terms of what? There's no where to "land," no where to put one's foot down on solid rational ground, with such a line of thinking.

Just trying to think the problem through....

Thanks ever so much for writing, metmom!

786 posted on 01/15/2009 2:46:58 PM PST by betty boop
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Yeah- the more I think about this, incomplete metainfo simply could not keep a species alive, as every aspect of the species must be regulated, controlled, directed and manipulated by metainfo in it’s completeness- A partial system of metainfo would just muck up the whole works as it would be directing one or a few systems, while other info would have no direction, and simply would not be able to work coherently with the info that was being directed by the metainfo-

Looking at this in a forward looking direction, it would be unreasonable to think that piling info on info could result in an evolving synchronized metainfo system, much the same way that adding digital info to a system of established digital info couldn’t add to the controlling metainfo already established unless the metainfo were already predesigned to accommodate this new info in the first place.

My previous silly example of species only being able to see green and acquiring ability down the lien to see red and to benefit from this new info was flawed inthat the species would have needed the metainfo inplace already to accommodate and utilize the addition of this newly gained ability, otherwise, the info would have been useless and the species would have been unable to make use of the new info.

I think hits paper’s concepts are infact forward looking inthat the 5 points absolutely needed to be inplace right fro the very simplest lifeforms on upward, which is what I think Demski refers to when he tries to contemplate CSI and where it might originate from- species life can not survive without this metainfo. While clear might be able to turn an amino acid into a protein, the 5 points of hierarchy are not present, and the protein simply can not survive nor evolve beyond it’s creation because there is no metainfo to sustain it, and certainly not enough to sustain it long enough to wait around for the ‘accidental completion of the end-step metainfo necessary for a life sustaining synchronized regulations needed in complex systems.

Others have tried to argue this metainfo, or CSI came from nature, flowed from nature to the species, but they know the weakness of their hypothesis, an have had extreme difficulty explaining how nature could have caused such complex metainfo in the first place, let alone, flowed to species in a stepwise manner while the species waited around in apparent static suspension in it’s incompleteness. Naturalist need to explain how CSI, or metainfo caused a ‘one fell swoop’ flow of metainfo from nature into a species, because it is clear that species need all 5 points of hierarchy inplace and functioning in synchronized harmony in order to survive.

Still thinking on this


861 posted on 01/16/2009 10:00:36 AM PST by CottShop
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