==I’d need to know more about whether or not nature is capable of creating chemically pure systems
It’s not just perfectly purity at issue. As Williams points out, these perfectly pure molecules are being selected out, one molecule at a time, from the dirty chemistry that we ingest in the form of food. Nothing in inanimate nature could possibly do this on its own. Therefore, this capability cannot be explained by either environmental chemistry or physics.
==I would also like to know a bit more about whether metainfo can or can not be created in a stepwise fashion- so far htough, the evidence seems to indicate it can not, and makes a fairly strong case that it can’t- but I’m not sure it’s an ‘airtight’ case
This also strikes me as a polyani impossibility, as metainfo (again, as Williams points out) is “information about how to use information. Meta-information cannot arise by chance because it only makes sense in context of the information it relates to.” In other words, in order for the thousands of metabolic pathways of a cell to function, inversely causal metainfo (information that anticipates what comes next) must be in place, but this very same metainfo cannot be explained by the metabolic pathways themselves, and yet is totally meaningless without said metabolic pathways. One cannot function without the other. Which means they both had to be present at the same time no matter how they got here.
==Williams made a coupel of unfortunate statements- however, they did nothign to undermine the central concepts that I can see.
Did you mention these before. I don’t seem to recall what you’re talking about here.
[[This also strikes me as a polyani impossibility, as metainfo (again, as Williams points out) is “information about how to use information. Meta-information cannot arise by chance because it only makes sense in context of the information it relates to.”]]
not to argue the oppositions side, but we’re looking at hte finished system and looking backwards, but what I’m wonderign is if mutations could alter lower level info in such a way as to keep adding code about hte info in such a manner as to create a system of infromation about the lower level info? Does htis make sense? I seriously doubt htis could happen- but it might be a remote argument. It could be argued I suppose that lower level info was in jeapordy, and mutations coem along and alter the info to produce correction info to deal with hte crisis, and htose that survived, simply passed along this newly ‘created’ higher info to their offspring (which assumedly woudl be ‘stored’ in a seperate ‘location’ seperate from the lower level info already present) After time, this seperate higher info- info about the lower info, accumulates, and results in the incredibly complex higher meta info that is capable of ‘anticipating’ problems because the combinations of stored info work to include new info that wasn’t originally created by the mutations.
I think htis will be hte arguemnt presented- Not sure if this argument is a correct one, or valid, as maybe I’m missing something in the metainfo only being from design argument?