Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: LeGrande
I'll offer my comments but then shall we get back to point of the debate?

“Yes, force is mass, waves are particles, no cause and effect needed. The law of cause and effect is a philosophical argument, not a scientific law.”

Force is mass TIMES ACCELERATION, you left out the meat in meat and potatoes. Yes, just as e= not just mass, but mass
times c squared, a very big difference, but irrelevant to my point.

Cause and effect is the conclusion of observation and test. If something crawled out of a lab vessel the scientist would not only look at the effect but search for a cause knowing by his observations and knowledge of physics that every result or effect he has obtained had a cause. He would hardly dismiss such a search as a “philosophical argument”!

“waves are particles...”,

Oh dear! Newton's corpuscles of light come to life after hundreds of years and Max Plank never lived.
As was stated earlier, it depends on the instrument measuring, measure for waves, you get waves, etc.

Now, let's get back to the debate, shall we?

121 posted on 01/12/2009 11:39:31 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 102 | View Replies ]


To: count-your-change
Force is mass TIMES ACCELERATION, you left out the meat in meat and potatoes.

When there is no acceleration, F=M. I left nothing out, I am simply trying to get to the lowest common denominator, to make everything as plain as possible.

Cause and effect is the conclusion of observation and test.

What is the 'cause' of Energy? There is no 'cause.'

waves are particles

As was stated earlier, it depends on the instrument measuring, measure for waves, you get waves, etc.

Yes like measuring height vs width. You are measuring different aspects of the same thing.

Now, let's get back to the debate, shall we?

Certainly, now that you agree that there is no scientific law of cause and effect.

171 posted on 01/12/2009 12:42:54 PM PST by LeGrande
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 121 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson