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To: William Tell

Really? I thought you couldnt have any rifle with removable mag out there now


156 posted on 01/11/2009 2:59:34 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife
mylife said: "I thought you couldnt have any rifle with removable mag out there now."

Not even close.

There is a law which bans magazines which hold more than ten rounds. Those of us who stocked up prior to the effective date are set because of a "grandfathering" of the existing mags. Others must be content to do with only ten rounds.

The Ruger Ranch Rifle is just that; a light-weight, semi-automatic, magazine-fed, rifle which fires the same round as most AR-15 type rifles and which is very popular with ranchers for taking care of coyotes and other vermin. It is fully legal to purchase (with a ten round magazine) as long as it is not equipped with a pistol grip, a flash suppressor, a folding stock, or whatever else the law states. (Federal used to outlaw bayonet lugs but I don't think that was ever on Kalifornia's list.)

Posting #148 above contains a link to a discussion of "off-list lowers". These are AR-15 type or AK-type receivers which can be built into rifles which are APPARENTLY legal to own in Kalifornia. They don't have the evil features like pistol-grips and they aren't on the list of makes and models which are banned.

Some of the purchasers of OLLs (off-list-lowers) were hoping that the state would add their gun to the list, thus allowing them to obtain a Kalifornia "assault weapon" despite the ban. After being added to the list, the gun owner would have 90 days to register such a receiver and then would own an "assault weapon". From that time forward, they would be able to add all the evil features that would otherwise be illegal to add.

Unfortunately for them, the anti-gunners decided to change the law which had previously allowed new guns to be added to the "assault weapons" list. These people are now stuck with rifles that can't have pistol grips.

In my case, I was unwilling to be trapped like the man described in this article. For that reason, I am comforted by the fact that my rifles can't be added to the list. (Unless the legislature itself decides to outlaw them explicitly.)

The "assault weapon" laws in Kalifornia have had negligible effect on anything whatever, aside from inconveniencing law-abiding gun owners. The same state legislature that would mandate wheel-chair ramps has outlawed rifle features which would be of great value to persons who have lost the use of one arm. I'm surprised that there hasn't been a challenge to the law on that basis alone.

168 posted on 01/11/2009 4:01:06 PM PST by William Tell (RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
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