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To: roamer_1; DangerZone; Travis McGee; puroresu; stainlessbanner

you got me thinking roamer,

have you looked at the 2000, 2004 and 2008 rounded off turnouts side by side

GOP Dem
2000 50,500,000 50,999,000

2004 62,000,000 59,000,000

2008 60,000,000 69,000,000

I don’t see the tunrout argument as very valid even though I thought so too myself a bit in the lead up

The Dems got 10,000,000 more votes and the GOP dropped 2 million compared to 4 years ago.

White vote was still around 58% in 2004 too. Looks like Dems just turned out much more...especially minorites.

I think a more conservative candidate can help but we are going to have to peel off some latinos which I think is a tall order or get more whites to vote right.

Blacks are a lost cause and Jews don’t matter except in south Florida....and they have been a lost cause too past 7 elections

Orientals ...maybe they are reachable....Japanese are the only ones vote GOP...no surprise there...they get culture

since you think my posts are nonsense please prove your point

respectfully


184 posted on 01/11/2009 9:17:12 PM PST by wardaddy (Monarchists for Palin 2012)
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To: wardaddy

Vietnamese vote GOP as a rule, they learned all about communism before moving here.


185 posted on 01/11/2009 9:19:05 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: wardaddy
since you think my posts are nonsense please prove your point

The nation claims 60%+ Conservative Christian. You have to stop looking at the 30% or less that are active voters and appeal to the ones who don't.

What it takes to get the every-day Joe six-pack to care enough, and believe enough to stop everything, go down and register, and then go down and vote takes more than slick Wall Street packaging and disingenuous platitudes. That's why, in Rush Limbaugh's words, Conservatism works "every time it's tried". That's why the Conservative base is 100 miles wide and 100 miles deep.

One would also do well to look at Reagan's high of 54m to Bush's high of 64m... 10m gained in 20 years? That is a sure sign of attrition considering the size of Conservative families, and their loyalty to what they believe in.

I myself, am responsible for doubling the voter roles within my own house in that time, with two more voting in the next election, though my father has passed away (a net +2, +4 by next election)- and that does not count my siblings (none of us voted Republican this year, I might add)...

Republicans should be able to easily bounce 70-75m by now- and if they re-committed themselves to Reagan, that is where they would be- But then, no one expects them to do that anytime soon.

188 posted on 01/12/2009 2:18:02 AM PST by roamer_1 (Proud 1%er... Reagan Conservatism is the only way forward.)
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To: wardaddy
Good post wardaddy.
The GOP needs to run a conservative candidate and see what happens...but then I'm not sure the GOP is really grounded in conservatism.
190 posted on 01/12/2009 6:26:29 AM PST by stainlessbanner
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