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To: okie01
Regrettably, I believe part of the fault is ours -- the conservative electorate. Once the Contract With America -- a very conservative proposition -- helped Republicans win Congress in 1994, they immediately began straying from conservatism. By 2006, they had lost their way. The problem was, we didn't effectively police the guys we'd elected. As a Congressman or Senator lapsed into "business as usual", became beholden to the Beltway mentality, began voting for pork and feeling just a little too comfortable in his job, we didn't discipline them via the primary process. Knock a couple of incumbent waverers off in the primaries and you'd be amazed how quickly the rest "come to Jesus"... Perhaps, we were too concerned with the anti-Clinton side of the political game...and not enough with the pro-conservatism side. But once conservatism is ascendant again, we'll have learned a lesson: Don't let the bastards get away with anything!

I do not disagree.... Conservatives did NOT defend their own, say like Newt or Tom Delay and usher them out of the realm of relevance quicker than a blink of an eye... and the moderate protectors of their future SS checks looked for the notion of 'big tent' republicanism, without holding fast to the principles that got them the majority in the first place.

The big tent policy was an attempt to coop liberalism and the liberals struck back running 'conservative' democrats in well researched seats. Nobody saw it coming and what republicanism ignored was those within the party that allowed the Foley types to go unchecked only to be used to shut down those identified 'values voters'.

See there is a large contingency of 'moderate' republicans that despise more than even the liberals do those 'values' voters and the liberals know this. The I like illegals cleaning my toilets and cutting my grass moderate republicans are no more reliable in elections than the 'values' voters are. Just that those elitists educated moderate republicans have the means and access to point their accusing fingers to those of the values voters as being a thorn in their proverbial side.

I learned the literal meaning of the word 'faith' during Clintonism, raising three children having to hear day in and day out about what was and was not sex. So NO I am not please with the course of events but I know who is in control and view the political landscape as a bit of Heaven sent winnowing out those with the proverbial spine and those who sit in their gated communities itching and moaning over all the stupid people that cause things to get where they are.

154 posted on 01/11/2009 11:34:40 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: Just mythoughts
See there is a large contingency of 'moderate' republicans that despise more than even the liberals do those 'values' voters and the liberals know this.

And I think the majority of those 'moderate" Republicans live in blue states that haven't voted for a Republican since Reagan, and are unlikely to go Republican in the foreseeable future.

A real problem is, if the conservative vote is split among several candidates as in 2008, it opens things up for a RINO like McCain. But the moderates offer little ability to actually deliver their states to a Republican nominee.

163 posted on 01/11/2009 12:21:21 PM PST by Will88
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