Oregon assisted suicide at record high

Seattle Post-Intelligencer ^ | 1/9/09 | John Iwasaki

[metmom]

Funny, in your post #38 I see a whole bunch of quotes with the word "kill," not "murder."

"Kill" means whatever believers say it does.

I think that believers are not really concerned much with judgments from non-Christians on what is Christian really is.

I don't see that someone who clearly hates Christianity is capable of a rational or accurate interpretation of Scripture.

Would you prefer to live in an atheist society or under an atheistic form of government? For example, one like the USSR (Stalin)? China? Cambodia? NK? Cuba?

[wagglebee]

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[Salvation]

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[Alamo-Girl]

Thank you so very much for sharing your insights, dearest sister in Christ!

God Himself may put a Christian in a situation - or permit him to be put in a situation - which is life-threatening. And He may miraculously save him, or He may bring him home.

But in every case, God's will is what matters, not ours. Emphasis mine:

Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

...

And what shall I more say? for the time would fail me to tell of Gedeon, and [of] Barak, and [of] Samson, and [of] Jephthae; [of] David also, and Samuel, and [of] the prophets: Who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions, Quenched the violence of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, out of weakness were made strong, waxed valiant in fight, turned to flight the armies of the aliens. Women received their dead raised to life again: and others were tortured, not accepting deliverance; that they might obtain a better resurrection: And others had trial of [cruel] mockings and scourgings, yea, moreover of bonds and imprisonment: They were stoned, they were sawn asunder, were tempted, were slain with the sword: they wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins; being destitute, afflicted, tormented;

(Of whom the world was not worthy:) they wandered in deserts, and [in] mountains, and [in] dens and caves of the earth.

... -Hebrews 11

Christians have no reason to fear suffering and physical death.

For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. – Romans 8:38-39

To God be the glory!

[wagglebee]

Amen!

[Clinging Bitterly]

Wait guys,, this is solid blue Oregon. It there some way we can accelerate it? Or authorize it for hayfever,,etc??

The cities like Portland, Eugene and Ashland are filthy with extreme leftists.

HEY - OVER HERE!

Really, I know what you mean.

Speaking directly to the issue of state sanctioned assisted suicide, though, I always had two major problems.

First, I don't think laws ought to be made that change the definitions of common words, such as marriage or suicide. If a suicide is assisted, it is not really a suicide by definition. Here, the ingestion of a lethal dose of barbiturates is assisted (perhaps made possible) through the direct cooperation of both a doctor and a pharmacist providing those drugs to the patient. It is a professionally enabled, hastened death.

Second, as a sort of social libertarian, I'm not convinced a procedure like this ought to be either sanctioned or prohibited by the state. There was nothing to prevent the private arrangement of substantially the same thing before it became explicitly legal. The law as it stands now merely limits the practice to certain methods and circumstances.

Better to just leave well enough alone IMO.

[little jeremiah]

I’ve lived in P’land and Eugene so I can say that! ;-)