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1 posted on 01/10/2009 8:56:24 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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Indeed, both liberals and conservatives favor tax cuts targeted to low-income workers

Yeah, let's give tax credits to crack addicts. That's gonna do a WHOLE lot for the economy
2 posted on 01/10/2009 8:59:21 AM PST by prismsinc (A.K.A. "The Terminator"!)
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It didn't work before and won't work now for one simple reason. It's almost impossible to buy anything in that price range that is made in the U.S. anymore.

This may stimulate some other nation's economy, but not ours.

3 posted on 01/10/2009 9:01:28 AM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (How much money has your 401K lost since the Democrats took Congress?)
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$500 a year? What good would that do? Make it $500 a month, sit back and watch the economy take off but, $500 a year?

Not only is that useless, it's insulting.

4 posted on 01/10/2009 9:01:59 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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How much would it “cost” to eliminate personal income tax and payroll taxes for one year?

Compare that cost to the trillion or so they want to just print up.


5 posted on 01/10/2009 9:03:24 AM PST by Principled (They used the CRA to undermine capitalism. They're using ACORN to undermine democracy.)
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I’m skeptical of the doom and gloom of this article.

Though I’d rather see a cut in the capital gains tax, I’ll take any kind of tax cut any kind of way.


6 posted on 01/10/2009 9:04:30 AM PST by samtheman
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Obama advisers have begun outlining a “temporary” $500 per worker tax credit.

Oh, perfect! He just confirmed my worst fears...he has no clue what he's doing. "Temporary" tax cuts do nothing to alter consumer expectations about their ability to purchase goods and services in the future. Such cuts to nothing to alter the disposable income consumers have to buy goods and services in the future. Yet, it is sustained increases in disposable income that enable consumers to qualify for home and auto loans, secure financing for their kids' education, and plan for retirement.

What's needed are tax cuts for consumers and business. I would also make significant cuts at the higher tax brackets, since these people are the ones who drive the economic system. When I ask the question: What's a rich person done for the system compared to what a poor person has done, the correct answer is the rich person does significantly more to help everyone than a poor person does. Screw being politically correct...poor people don't create employment opportunities by creating new businesses. Liberals romanticize the poor and Obama's tax cuts are a continuation of this misdirected thinking. If you want to end this recession, quit demonizing business and give them a reason to set up shop in the US again, rather than pushing them out like you have since Reagan left office.

Wake up Obama. Take an Econ 101 course with your political blinders off and do what's right for the country, not your political future.

13 posted on 01/10/2009 9:09:58 AM PST by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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Tax cut????

I thought the libs ran on a tax hike. Why don’t they raise the taxes? I thought that the best economic years were when libs raised the taxes the highest.

Now I’m confused


15 posted on 01/10/2009 9:11:19 AM PST by pennyfarmer (Shiite Muslim named Bob.)
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Hell, give 'em all a million. A year from now they'll be right back in the same circumstances.

We are headed for the cliff with the pedal to the medal, pure insanity to think this has any chance of even helping the economy let alone fix it.

But, maybe that's the plan.

24 posted on 01/10/2009 9:26:42 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (The tree of liberty is getting mighty dry)
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Good common sense discussion of economic situation:

marketwatch.com

Click on “No recovery this year, Battaglia says”


25 posted on 01/10/2009 9:31:51 AM PST by randita
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The middle class will save the money or use it to pay off debt. The lower class will spend it at Walmart. Look where people bought winter clothes this year. The department stores are going broke while Walmart had an increase over last years 4th quarter sales. Not as big an increase as they expected, but an increase never the less.

Try looking at the goods in Walmart for where they are made. This cut will put people to work.. Unfortunately they will be Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese, and Mexicans.


27 posted on 01/10/2009 9:32:59 AM PST by Common Tator
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To: SeekAndFind; prismsinc; TwelveOfTwenty; Psycho_Bunny; Principled; samtheman; econjack; ...
RE :“we are in effect rebating to the low-income groups
below $6,000 most of the payroll tax they have already paid.

If I pay their SS and medicare tax through these tax credits can I get their benefits?? Or do they get my benefits too?

My biggest problem with SS is the middle class sees it as a pension. Many republicans use the delusional phrase “but I paid in....” . It is so annoying when republicans claim they “paid in” as if they checked a box on their income tax form for “Yes, I want to contribute to SS”. This is democrats greatest victory. You never “paid into” anything, taxes are taken from us by force if necessary. The feds are taking my (FDIC taxpayers) money and giving some to you (SS beneficiary)and spending the rest. Your money was “taken away from you and given away and spent many years ago”. It is a welfare scheme that is setup to convince the recipient they they earned it, even if they paid little or no federal taxes (Tax rebates anyone??). That way they will demand it. Democrats love it, it is their biggest victory having the middle class addicted to a welfare type redistribution system. They actually call it a federal mandatory insurance system, not a pension. You are insured against having NO income at retirement if you have met some minor work history requirements. It is also expanded to the disabled (as a disability payment) and to minor dependent survivors. Like Medicare, it is very popular with those that get it......MORE AT “

Social Security and Obama: Pension or Welfare?

28 posted on 01/10/2009 9:33:42 AM PST by sickoflibs (GWB : "Give me a 700B blank check to save the UAW until Obama takes office")
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a refundable income tax credit is still an outlay and not truly a tax cut

The government does not have a pool of cash to draw from. The government only has two sources of funds; they can either borrow money by printing it or they can collect tax money.

Is it efficient for Congress to collect taxes they say they intend to return? Perhaps allowing the people to keep what they would have paid in taxes for a few weeks instead of collecting it first is a more efficient way to stimulate the economy.

Is it wise to allow members of Congress to get their woefully corrupted and greedy hands on the money before returning it to the people?

30 posted on 01/10/2009 9:38:27 AM PST by MosesKnows (Love many, Trust few, and always paddle your own canoe)
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Fly B-52’s over the country dropping $100 bills. It would be cheaper. And, Bambi has no need for B-52’s anyway now that everyone in the world loves us.

Of course, they would probably need an F-22 escort to protect them from gang hijackings.


36 posted on 01/10/2009 9:59:02 AM PST by ModelBreaker
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I'll buy American.

I'll take the $500 and buy some more ammo with it.
Good old big caliber, Made-In-The-USA brass case, re-loadable.

None of that Commie Bloc steel case, dirty powder surplus.

Only a few years ago the same amount of ammo cost about $100.

After THE OBAMA COLLAPSE it'll be $25 a round, but there won't be any for sale.

43 posted on 01/10/2009 10:27:42 AM PST by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself)
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It won't do much, but it will work fine, because the economy is going to recover anyway. Obama and company will then take credit for it. And all the conservative idiots now predicting doom forever will look like the ideologically narrow minded fools they objectively are. Does Obama deserve credit for the inevitable recovery of the US economy, on its natural forces and the past actions of the Fed and outgoing Bush admininstration? No. Will anything they are doing halt that inevitable recovery? No. Will any amount of whining about it from the right? No. It will just make it look like the right doesn't understand the economy and make it easier for Obama to take credit for the recovery when it happens, because half the country will have spent 1-2 years screaming that it won't and can't, and it is all Obama's fault that it hasn't. When it then does...
54 posted on 01/10/2009 12:15:38 PM PST by JasonC
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Well, I have to laugh. I think the drones that voted for this fraud thought their house amd gas payments were going to paid for by the messiah?

*snicker*


73 posted on 01/11/2009 2:47:51 PM PST by dforest (Is there any good idea out there that Obama doesn't lay claim to anymore?)
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