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To: visually_augmented
"Almost all leagal cases would require at least a few pieces of corroborating evidence to confirm a fact....All documents - to have any value whatsoever - must somehow be identified as authentic."

The short form version is legal proof in itself. When it says it is prima facie proof of birth, it means that it should be taken at face value unless someone can prove otherwise.

891 posted on 01/16/2009 7:18:51 AM PST by mlo
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To: mlo

mlo:”The short form version is legal proof in itself. When it says it is prima facie proof of birth, it means that it should be taken at face value unless someone can prove otherwise.”

Then explain why Hawaii maintains the vault copy of the birth certificate. It obviously requires a considerable amount of expense to keep everyone’s vault copy along with the short form. Why do they continue to maintain that record if it is superfluous??


893 posted on 01/16/2009 7:23:22 AM PST by visually_augmented (I was blind, but now I see)
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To: mlo
The short form version is legal proof in itself. When it says it is prima facie proof of birth, it means that it should be taken at face value unless someone can prove otherwise.

It also says any alterations invalidate it.

Kind of hard to prove otherwise if no one gets to examine the document for alterations, isn't it.

People have done the best they can with the image(s), and have seen evidence of either alteration, or out and out creation of a false document.

941 posted on 01/16/2009 11:23:46 AM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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