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To: swordfishtrombone
Well, there you go again. More quotes, some of them up for another round. And yet, not even one is antisemitic. Nothing at all. And still you insist that in the absolute and total absence of antisemitism we can be certain of antisemitism. Funny, I wonder how many quotes I can dredge up by you which don't evince your interest in paederasty.
If you fail to back Israel in my eyes, you are an anti-Semite.

And if you insist on equating not supporting Israel and antisemitism then you are an imbecile. Perhaps you might give some though to actually learning what words mean before you try using them. Antisemitism has as much to do with "backing" the actions of a particular nation as you have with intelligence. They are completely unrelated. Pretending they are the same does not mean that you get to go around accusing people of bigotry. That is called lying. There is another word you would do well to learn something about.

What exactly are you STILL missing here? His statements reek of the Peace Now activists in Israel and elsewhere: the pinnacle of capitulation and cowardice... is your membership still active?

I will tell you what is missing here. Substance to back up your lies. Proof. Evidence. That is what is missing. You have libeled people, and when called on it you cast sin before sin. You are worse than what you would decry.

99 posted on 01/11/2009 10:57:11 PM PST by cothrige (Ego vero Evangelio non crederem, ni si me catholicae Ecclesiae commoveret auctoritas.)
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To: cothrige
I will tell you what is missing here. Substance to back up your lies. Proof. Evidence. That is what is missing. You have libeled people, and when called on it you cast sin before sin. You are worse than what you would decry.

The evidence is right there in front of your eyes. A history of calling the pursuit of SS guards a waste of time, tenuous praise for Hitler, insinuating the Jews are pulling the strings of power in D.C., singling out of AIPAC over & over, refusal to acknowledge Israel's right to defend itself, limp-wristed & dovish on any Middle-eastern conflict (which he's made apparent that JEWS are the only reason we are involved in)... and I'm the imbecile? When "backing" a nation or not is in direct correlation with it's survival, then you tell me what that's called. If you were any more dense, matter would start collapsing in around you. You are intellectual dishonesty at it's most self-righteous and disgusting

Buchanan hates intervention because he thinks it fosters terrorism. And, yes, disparaging or denying the sovereignty of a nation based on his conceptualizing of Isolationism is blatant antisemitism if, in turn, that results in a lack of support for Israel's military actions in defense. Splitting hairs on the meaning of antisemitism is a different story. Does Buchanan want to commit mass genocide against the jews? Not directly, of course... but he does think there's a peaceful alternative to the Palestinean charade. There is, of course, peace for Israel down that road... when the Islamic world stamps them out there won't be any more conflict. No, Buchanan is the same type of anti-Zionist that Charles Lindbergh was

100 posted on 01/11/2009 11:31:09 PM PST by swordfishtrombone
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To: cothrige
I finally read the entirety of your posts on this thread... you've been pretty busy playing D for Pat! Loved this little gem

Opposing a position of Israel isn't "anti" anything but that particular position of Israel.

How about if that position is their right to defend themselves and their citizens!?! Honestly?! REALLY? I quit... your eloquent prose is utterly useless without the ability to read what you write objectively. What a waste of time; I usually like back & forth discussion where I leave with a better understanding than when I began. In this case, all I learned is how blind some people get when they can't see the forest through the trees. Keep thinking Pat Buchanan understands the plight of Israel and his desires aren't mired in ignorance... clearly if what HE says won't convince you otherwise, what chance does anyone else have?

101 posted on 01/12/2009 12:23:48 AM PST by swordfishtrombone
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