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To: cothrige
I've (wrongly) assumed you'd just drop this losing battle... anyway

And you do have quotes, neatly excised from all context, though you cannot understand them in any case. They say the opposite of what you think they do, and by making these absurd claims you only advertise your own shortcomings. Since nobody here has shown where Pat Buchanan has actually said that the Jews are to be hated or that he does in fact hate them there is, of course, nothing to be seen at all. Only a semi-literate cretin can make the leap that not agreeing with Israel's political activity or positions is synonymous with anti-semitism.

Buchanan: (...) The Israelis have been hit for six months with these little rockets that didn't kill anybody. It was outrageous, cruel and stupid, and they triggered a blitzkrieg against the Palestinians in Gaza, which in my judgment is an Israeli concentration camp, where a million-and-a-half people are locked up, cannot come out or go in. They've been controlling food, electricity, fuel. And the innocent people in Gaza are the ones suffering.

Buchanan has always patently refused the moniker of anti-Semite for obvious reasons. He said "...the slur of 'anti-Semite!' for what it has all too often become, an attempt to smear, silence, intimidate, ostracize and blacklist." He was addressing Mel Gibson after the Passion and he brought up a valid point.

Therein lies the problem with Buchanan: He's sharp. The man can anticipate attacks in interviews, answer when and how he wants and ultimate refuses to be pinned down with anything other than what he wants. Podhoretz, Dershowitz, and all the neocons in D.C. have, at one point or another, tried to tie him down to no avail. Does this nullify their point? If anything, it speaks only to Pat's uncanny ability to dance his way out of a hot issue. Unless of course it was his claim that diesel exhaust can't kill people, which he was challenged to defend but couldn't find the time to actually do so. I think getting Demjanjuk off the hook went to his head; all the future Nazi revisionism became self-fulfilling in his eyes

The real issue isn't taking things out of context here, which is apparently the hill you want to die on. The biggest question of all is why would anyone, when addressing Hitler, employ words like "courage" or "gifts" at all? Why even open yourself up to it? It's begging for controversy where there doesn't need to be any. That makes him an attention whore, on top of a running theme of anti-jewry/anti-jewish policy/anti-jewry-defending-itself... sorry, I'm just trying not to use "anti-Semite" anymore to prevent you having an aneurism

See, for us semi-literate cretins, while we pause hunched over text... grunting and foaming at the mouth, feet kicking the air wildly while we comprehend the next word's meaning, occasionally we get lucky and read between the lines as we stare listlessly at the page

There's a problem with being an Isolationist and passing judgment on a nation defending itself against terror and military aggression: it makes you sound like a blithering idiot or a hypocrite. When that nation is Israel, a nation who has never sought to conquer anyone else, only defend it's own borders and hard-won land, you go from sounding like an Isolationist with a chip on his shoulder to an ANTI-SEMITE

96 posted on 01/11/2009 4:23:53 PM PST by swordfishtrombone
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To: swordfishtrombone
Interesting stuff. I especially like the part where you produce all that undeniable proof that he is absolutely anti-semitic. And your technique there is just brilliant. The way you demonstrate that all the stuff he says, over and over, which isn't anti-semitic is how we can tell he is anti-semitic. And how when he says he isn't anti-semitic that means he is anti-semitic. Wow. That blows me away. Who can argue with logic like that.

By the way, I have found some other anti-semites for you. I have been "reading" using these new techniques and it has revealed a ton. There is Mother Theresa, Mahatma Gandhi, George W. Bush, and the list goes on and on. You cannot imagine how suspiciously they have managed not to write or say anti-semitic stuff. Oh, and I am pretty certain that Woody Allen, Jackie Mason and Ed Koch are anti-semites too. Maybe if you came out and called them that they would deny it, and of course that would prove it beyond all doubt. Wouldn't it?

See, for us semi-literate cretins, while we pause hunched over text... grunting and foaming at the mouth, feet kicking the air wildly while we comprehend the next word's meaning, occasionally we get lucky and read between the lines as we stare listlessly at the page

I have to say, this is the pièce de résistance. Just how wonderfully you point out that you don't actually read what people write to discover that they are bigots. You know, I had a suspicion. And I am sorry if you got the idea that I think you are a semi-literate cretin. I don't think, after seeing you in action, that anyone would ever be tempted to use the term 'semi-literate' as a description for you.

97 posted on 01/11/2009 5:53:17 PM PST by cothrige (Ego vero Evangelio non crederem, ni si me catholicae Ecclesiae commoveret auctoritas.)
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