I did not call PAt an antisemite. What I said was, "Buchanan does not like Israel. He despises Nazi hunters more than SS members. He is stuck in the 1930s. "
The Israeli people are America’s friends and have a right to peace and secure borders. We should help them secure these rights. As a nation, we have made a moral commitment, endorsed by half a dozen presidents, which Americans wish to honor, not to permit these people who have suffered much to see their country overrun and destroyed. And we must honor this commitment.
That's a nice statement, the equivalent of liberals defending their patriotism, right before they redefine it into meaninglessness. Buchanan not only opposes any action that would prevent Iran from nuking Israel, but he has also supported Israel becoming a bi national state, which is to say it being destroyed in the name of peace.
Since 1992, Buchanan has persistently attacked every single attempt of Israel to defend itself since then. And he does so in the most possible inflammatory manner possible.
Funny way to express dislike, isn't it? Not that it would matter. Even if he did dislike Israel it is not anti-semitism until you can prove that hatred of Jews in general is why he dislikes Israel.
I suggest that you read Lawrence Auster's Buchanan's White Whale
I did not call PAt an antisemite. What I said was, "Buchanan does not like Israel. He despises Nazi hunters more than SS members. He is stuck in the 1930s. "
Yes, but you also said this:
You are wasting your time... They will not honestly define antisemetism or ct accordingly, because to doso would be to choose to expunge some, or to make antisemetism non-issue.
Here you are agreeing with the poster in his insistence that Pat Buchanan is an anti-semite, and labeling my refusal to concede such as the unsound, even dishonest, position. There are people on this thread who seem unable to read, but I assure you that I am not one of them.
That's a nice statement, the equivalent of liberals defending their patriotism, right before they redefine it into meaninglessness.
Oh, so the quotes falsely used to uphold the charge of anti-semitism are valid, but this is not. Why? Because he actually did say what I said he did?
Buchanan not only opposes any action that would prevent Iran from nuking Israel, but he has also supported Israel becoming a bi national state, which is to say it being destroyed in the name of peace.
I have never read anything from Pat Buchanan, or heard anything from him, suggesting that he opposes "any action" to prevent Iran from nuking anybody. He may be opposed to "any action" being suggested by this or that person which they say would acheive that goal, but that isn't at all the same thing. And regardless his position on Iran seems entirely consistent with his position on other nations, even when not affecting Israel. If he has a problem with Jews then his position would have be about them, and not universal. Buchanan is a non-interventionist. And regardless of whether you think that is sound or not, it obviously has nothing at all to do with Israel or the Jews.
As for the binational state, the only thing I could find was this:
If Israel is to remain democratic and Jewish, she must either let the West Bank, Gaza, and East Jerusalem go—or annex them all and grant Palestinians full rights as citizens in a binational state. Are Israeli Jews willing to practice in their country what American Jews preach in ours, equality and multiculturalism?
And you think recognizing the above is the same as destroying Israel in the name of peace? What I read above, like the Hitler quote, just seems like reasonable consideration of what reality is, and what democracy means.
This thread has been eaten up with charges of anti-semitism. These charges have been levelled at Pat Buchanan based on abhorrently ignorant readings of excised quotes. They have been aimed at me because I will not join a mob in hurling unfounded epithets. Regardless of what certain people here want to believe, this is a very typical tactic of the rabid left. Twist what people say and then imply they are bigots to marginalize them. If you seek to defend those that attack Pat Buchanan as a Jew hater, then you share in the libel. Twisting quotes to your purpose is ugly and, to borrow your term, dishonest. Opposing a position of Israel isn't "anti" anything but that particular position of Israel. Nothing you or anyone else has presented on this thread has shown anything but a mad compulsion by the posters themselves to call people anti-semitic, regardless of reality. I really am appalled that people calling themselves conservative have become this comfortable using such ugly terms and group politics to attack those who are doing nothing other than actually being conservative.