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To: rmlew
Pat equates Neoconservatives with Israeli patriots. All else follows, including his attachment to the leftist positions on Israel and blind hatred for Israel nationalists who agree with him on blood and soil.

If he equates neoconservatives with Israeli patriots then this thread would seem to prove him right. Here he is being called a liberal. Consider that. Pat Buchanan, a liberal. That means that today, according to the neoconservatives at this site, a liberal is a person who is unyieldingly pro-life, opposed to any gun control, stands firm against the homosexual agenda and feminism and is a staunch proponent of strong borders, but who also believes America's interests should come before Israel's. That honestly sounds like either Israeli patriotism or terminal stupidity. Probably both.

78 posted on 01/09/2009 9:58:14 PM PST by cothrige (Ego vero Evangelio non crederem, ni si me catholicae Ecclesiae commoveret auctoritas.)
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To: cothrige
If he equates neoconservatives with Israeli patriots then this thread would seem to prove him right. Here he is being called a liberal....That honestly sounds like either Israeli patriotism or terminal stupidity. Probably both.
I don't think most people here are neoconservatives, per se. There are a few single issue folks who have no more creative retort than "liberal". Others are responding explicitly to Buchanan's liberal argument here. Most rightly call Buchanan either an isolationist or someone who doesn't like Israel (at least the nation-state).

There are few Israelis on this site. With the exception of those who support Israel on the basis of theology, most are annoyed with Buchanan's comments about a Western nation under Islamist assault.

Finally, there is an echo chamber, where most people try to one up each other.


I would note that if you read through the posts there are 4 other former Buchanan supporters quite angry at Pat on this issue.

Right now I am taking a break from formulating a response to Paul Gottfried's defense of Taki's inescapable antisemetism, where he outs me.

79 posted on 01/10/2009 12:20:05 AM PST by rmlew (The loyal opposition to a regime dedicated to overthrowing the Constitution are accomplices.)
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