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1 posted on 01/05/2009 12:46:06 PM PST by steve-b
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The Net would be harder to control than Radio.


2 posted on 01/05/2009 12:47:53 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_C992KPzKs

They already have the media scrub down pat.


3 posted on 01/05/2009 12:49:34 PM PST by AliVeritas (Prayers for Israel.)
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Or imagine a marketing genius like the Nazi chief propagandist Josef Goebbels managing a viral social network of anti-Semites....

The "marketing geniuses" (Rush, Hannity, etc) are all on our side.. Who do they have?

4 posted on 01/05/2009 12:49:55 PM PST by Riodacat (Legum servi sumus ut liberi esse possimus.)
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Without the ability to censor the opposing side, I don’t see how this could happen.

It works in TV and print because the left successfully censored the right out of the picture, while they still pretend they didn’t.


5 posted on 01/05/2009 12:49:55 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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Or imagine a marketing genius like the Nazi chief propagandist Josef Goebbels managing a viral social network of anti-Semites....

You mean -- like the Democrat Underground?

6 posted on 01/05/2009 12:51:23 PM PST by BenLurkin
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ROFLAMO. The tool of the tools is turning on them.


8 posted on 01/05/2009 12:53:28 PM PST by Steamburg ( Your wallet speaks the only language most politicians understand.)
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Imagine if today's radically unregulated Internet, with its absence of fact checkers and editorial gatekeepers, had existed back then. Imagine that universal broadband had been available to enable the unemployed to read the latest conspiracy theories about the Great Crash on the blogosphere. Imagine the FDR-baiting, Hitler-loving Father Charles Coughlin, equipped with his “personalized” YouTube channel, able, at a click of a button, to distribute his racist message to the suffering masses. Or imagine a marketing genius like the Nazi chief propagandist Josef Goebbels managing a viral social network of anti-Semites....

BULL! BULL! BULL! The author couldn't be further off mark. REGULATED internet is a threat. The unregulated internet is a powerful weapon for those who fight fascism, government control and censorship. Has it ever come into his mind that it could have been also used to expose Hitler, Coughlin or FDR, for that matter?

The internet, together with (if not more than) talkradi are the last bastions of dissident thought.

Of course it's easier to justify censorship by portraying the "evil internetz" as heirs of Hitler. What a load...

9 posted on 01/05/2009 12:54:06 PM PST by SolidWood (Sarah Palin - Everything that is Sweetness and Light!)
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So the internet “...spreads corrosive lies and inflames prejudice...” The MSM has been doing that for decades! When will it’s influence be questioned/banned?


11 posted on 01/05/2009 12:56:17 PM PST by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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I'm struck practically speechless by this article and the layers of condescending claptrap and outright falsehoods it spreads.

Imagine if today's radically unregulated Internet, with its absence of fact checkers and editorial gatekeepers, had existed back then.

Absence of fact-checkers? What does he call Free Republic, Drudge Report, Atlas Shrugged, etc? Far from being "no" fact checkers, there's tens of millions of fact-checkers, working 24x7.

When the "Editorial Gatekeepers" are at the heel of the totalitarians, and only totalitarian-approved messages can be disseminated, that's when there's disaster brewing, not when there are no editorial gatekeepers at all.

How far would the Dan Rather forgery have gotten if the only "fact checkers" were CBS employees and the "Editorial Gatekeeper" were Dan Rather himself?

12 posted on 01/05/2009 12:56:29 PM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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Fascism has returned, and it bears the face of Andrew Keen.


14 posted on 01/05/2009 12:59:27 PM PST by SolidWood (Sarah Palin - Everything that is Sweetness and Light!)
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Imagine if today's radically unregulated Internet, with its absence of fact checkers and editorial gatekeepers, had existed back then.

Absence of fact checkers?

Perhaps we should retell the story of the Texas National Guard documents and the effect that an absence of fact checkers had on Dan Rather and CBS News.

15 posted on 01/05/2009 12:59:33 PM PST by MAexile (Bats left, votes right)
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Imagine if today's radically unregulated Internet, with its absence of fact checkers and editorial gatekeepers, had existed back then. Imagine that universal broadband had been available to enable the unemployed to read the latest conspiracy theories about the Great Crash on the blogosphere. Imagine the FDR-baiting, Hitler-loving Father Charles Coughlin, equipped with his “personalized” YouTube channel, able, at a click of a button, to distribute his racist message to the suffering masses. Or imagine a marketing genius like the Nazi chief propagandist Josef Goebbels managing a viral social network of anti-Semites....

Imagine if any person back then had been able to immediately publish their opposition to any of these things - Nazism might never have gotten beyond a few Munich beer halls. The Internet is not radio, television or newspaper. It does not exist to broadcast the views of a precious few elites. Any of us can use it to combat views we oppose, to espouse and publicize views we champion. The Internet enables the ordinary citizen to gather information, to make informed choices, and to make his/her views known as no tool ever has before.
16 posted on 01/05/2009 12:59:43 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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Global warming is a hate-filled message: hate towards capitalism and all its wealth. If it wasn't for the internet few of us would be able to study and counter it or even know just how many others have figured out it's a scam. If all we had was the old MSM we would be powerless to disseminate the other side of the story. The left looks warily at the internet for having this anti-central-authority power.
17 posted on 01/05/2009 1:00:43 PM PST by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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Let’s see......if we did not have the internet........

Fahrenheit 9/11 would have been a documentary sold to the public without opposing view.

Dan Rather would have successfully circulated a forged document against a sitting president.

Al Gore would have won the White House in 2000.

Bill Clinton would never have been impeached for staining an intern’s dress with his manhood.

Many “studies” against guns would never have been proven to be falsified.

Many “speeches” would never have been proven to be plagurized.


21 posted on 01/05/2009 1:18:38 PM PST by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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“The 1930s fascists were expert at using all the most technologically sophisticated communications technologies—the cinema, radio, newspapers, advertising—to spew their destructive, hate-filled message. What they excelled at was removing the the traditional middlemen like religion, media, and politics, and using these modern technologies of mass communications to speak with reassuring familiarity to the disorientated masses.”

I don’t think BO needs to do this. He already has the media kissing his A$$. That IS mass communication. They will deliver pretty much whatever message his talking points of the day include. So why bother going around them. I think he will focus more on exploiting that advantage by curbing internet political activity and talk radio. Then his message is the ONLY message people hear.


23 posted on 01/05/2009 1:53:21 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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“We live in an increasingly democratized culture in which individuals, tragically, have less and less control over their own economic lives.”

HUH?


24 posted on 01/05/2009 1:54:05 PM PST by haroldeveryman
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“.... why would we want to give all Americans universal broadband access at the very moment when millions of them will be unemployed, disorientated and angry?”

I’ve got an idea. Why don’t we make an exception of Andrew Keen of “The Daily Beast” ?


25 posted on 01/05/2009 2:06:22 PM PST by haroldeveryman
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This is the same guy who called printing presses evil in colonial America. A responsible press is a wonderful thing for those who decide what is irresponsible. For anyone else, it is a gag and the single most useful weapon of the tyrant.


26 posted on 01/05/2009 2:30:58 PM PST by magslinger (I talk to myself but sometimes I like a third opinion.)
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I'm afraid the internet just may be that portal to 1984.

A couple of thoughts;

Talk radio will be ignored .. we will be put into a frenzy by Congress 'acting on' TFD, but really .. they don't care whether it will go through or not ... haven't they already proven that they can manipulate enough people to mimic a majority? This neo-majority (I'll lay claim to the coinage of the word), is sufficient because of their bruteness to be louder and more effective in being ... well ... louder ... and more repetative.

We are watching the dismantleing of America as she was meant to be in an extremely rapid pace.

Zero took office with the daily press meetings and nominations .. all very professional and 'presidential'.

The internet will be the gathering place of conversation and debate .. and more lefties will come along and be ... um ... louder and more repetative.

They have the time, the power positions, the money .. and folks .. no one wants to say the words but the fact is, all we have are words and bullets.

I truly believe we will have our Lexington Green.

27 posted on 01/05/2009 2:48:50 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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Andrew Keen on Sarah Palin:

"Palin's performances plunged American Presidential politics to a new nadir in intellectual ignorance, linguistic cheesiness and populist farce. The Couric interview, in particular, revealed a barely literate woman unable to string a coherent sentence together." The 2008 tv election October 10, 2008

I dunno, Andrew - I thought Katie Couric was fairly literate in the interview, even though the overpaid tart doesn't know that FDR didn't "get on TeeVee" in 1929, because he wasn't president, and there were only a handful of experimental TeeVees...

I'm thinking the real Nazi just outed himself. He wants himself and his "journalist" gang to control the Internet for the Obama White House, to shut us ignorant Righties up...

28 posted on 01/05/2009 3:47:30 PM PST by an amused spectator (Citizen Kenyan: The man who created The Sock-Puppet Constitution.)
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