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To: norge; sarasota
Perhaps then, you'll remember that Billy was bashed in much the same manner as Rick Warren is being bashed now...by many of the same kinds of fundamentalists, for many of the same reasons.

actually no I don't rememeber any of that and I'm 51 and saw Graham preach several times as a boy.

do you have any proof?

Graham has always been the benchmark of a gentleman evangelist.

the only blemish he has is being in the room with Nixon when Nixon went on about Jews who were out to get him (some were to be honest)

53 posted on 01/05/2009 10:13:35 AM PST by wardaddy (Monarchists for Palin 2012)
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To: wardaddy; sarasota

wardaddy, I am 72, and I attended many BG crusades, including one in 1945 at Soldier Field in Chicago (although it was a Youth For Christ crusade, and BG at the time was a young traveling representative for YFC), and a seminal one in Columbia, SC in 1949/50 when I committed my life to Christ.

And sarasota, I attended BJU in 1956/57 and in fact, was a member of Dr. Bob’s quartet, and we traveled around with him.

It was in 1957 that Dr. Bob put it to the students in chapel that you either “stand with Dr. Bob or Billy Graham”, and he made us make our commitment that day, at that moment. As one who had great admiration for BG and from a family that supported him in many ways, I did not stand. I left BJU in February of 1957, not entirely because of that, but it certainly had an effect on me.

For both of you, BG’s error, according to Dr. Bob, was that he was too “inclusive”, much the same accusation that is leveled at RW today.

For an historical perspective, which both of you seem to lack, with all due respect, it is available in Wikipedia, under Bob Jones. Considerably down in the lengthy article is BJ’s spat with BG.

And before you dismiss BJ Sr. as a crackpot (and you won’t get much of an argument from me on that), consider that BJU was then, and still is, a powerful force in evangelical, fundamentalist Christianity. BJU grads are in pastorates all over the country. As such, Bob Jones had a significant impact on fundamentalists during that period. It is obvious that BG prevailed.

Billy Graham is without a doubt the foremost evangelist of our day, and survives to this day as a living example of propriety.

However, even on this very thread you will see those who see fit to criticize him.

Best Wishes to both of you.


61 posted on 01/05/2009 5:25:17 PM PST by norge
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