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Rick Warren is no Billy Graham
Townhall.com ^ | January 5, 2009 | Star Parker

Posted on 01/05/2009 4:54:34 AM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 01/05/2009 4:54:34 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Starr was right then....and she’s right now.


2 posted on 01/05/2009 4:59:46 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Kaslin
McCain's approval went way up after Saddleback, and Obama's went down.

But as long as we are blaming Warren why don't we blame Ann Coulter and that host of Freepers who continued to bash McCain even when the choice became McCain or HillObama?

3 posted on 01/05/2009 5:10:42 AM PST by Tribune7 (Obama wants to put the same crowd that ran Fannie Mae in charge of health care)
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To: anniegetyourgun
"Nor would I see the Rev. Graham signing onto the Evangelical Climate Initiative, as has Rick Warren.

Rick Warren does not know the infallible Word of God. If perchance he could quote chapter and verse, he doesn't understand it but Billy Graham does.

I'm off to work out and will check back later.

4 posted on 01/05/2009 5:18:09 AM PST by Old Badger (After this sorry election, boy do opportunities abound!)
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To: Kaslin
Thank-you, you have no idea how timely this is.

Sadly I had to defend Starr's position to none other than my pastor's wife last night (Women's Bible Study) and promptly went home and tossed & turned all night, with little sleep.

I have been in this particular church for 7 years....I am not a newbie Christian (although I'm still on that road to santification)

..and I knew this church was more seeker friendly/family oriented-(even in a Reformed Calvinistic denomination)... but it was a friendly church and was due to a move from one town to the next.

Last night was a genuine surprise and one I am praying about....suffice to say I'm deeply disappointed.

Thanks again.

5 posted on 01/05/2009 5:25:12 AM PST by Guenevere
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To: Old Badger
Actually Billy might (or might not he's so ill right now_)...

..but his son, Franklin Graham....NEVER!

6 posted on 01/05/2009 5:26:29 AM PST by Guenevere
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To: Tribune7

McCain was and is a loose cannon. He would take one step in the right direction and three steps to the left. He appeared to be a person with a very narrow perspective. The hot-temper only made him more distasteful.


7 posted on 01/05/2009 5:28:38 AM PST by pointsal
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To: Guenevere
clarification...

I meant Franklin Graham would never sign on to Obama's invite to attend the inaugural as the 'token Christian'....or to sway those who are less understanding of Christian concept.

8 posted on 01/05/2009 5:29:03 AM PST by Guenevere
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I have no objection to the forum called by Rick Warren for both candidates. As a matter of fact, I think it gave voters the best view of the candidates positions. I agree, however, that Rev. Warren is NO Billy Graham....and no Christian is being fooled by Obama’s clear attempt here to get the support of Christians by requesting that Rev. Warren give the inaugural prayer invocation. I WILL pray for Obama as president that he will receive God’s wisdom for the awesome task ahead of him....and for his true conversion to Jesus Christ.


9 posted on 01/05/2009 5:31:04 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified DeCartes))
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Now President-elect Obama has invited Rick Warren to give the invocation at his inaugural.

The False Prophet (or should it be spelled Profit?) giving the invocation for the Anti-Christ...how nice.

The NY Times calls this an "olive branch to conservative Christian evangelicals"

True Christians won't compromise on our principles, especially on abortion. This is a test, folks.

and many now call Warren this era's Billy Graham.

Anyone who compares Warren to Graham deserves to burn in the fires of hell.

10 posted on 01/05/2009 5:40:09 AM PST by ravingnutter
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To: Kaslin
Obama wants to bail out the Abortion Industry| Dec 23, 2008 | Conservative Politics Today

Call Rick Warren pastor of the Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, California and tell him to talk to his buddy Obama about this.

http://saddleback.com/index.html

11 posted on 01/05/2009 5:43:21 AM PST by sickoflibs (GWB : "Give me a 700B blank check to save the UAW until Obama takes office")
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To: Guenevere

Those of us who grew with the Graham Crusade are feeling the loss of this cornerstone. We have morphed into the Rick Warren agenda, and, while it doesn’t represent many of us, it will no doubt lead to an even more liberal agenda.


12 posted on 01/05/2009 5:54:05 AM PST by sarasota
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To: Tribune7
I voted for McCain, for just the reason you said- it was a choice of him or the Marxist.

Unfortunately, Free Republic doesn't even constitute one percent of the voting public. The election wasn't decided here.

The election was decided the day that McCain took up for poor little Barry when people were being mean to him and said "He'd make a fine President".

That's the day that enough of the masses said "okay, I'll vote for him".

Face it, McCain was and still is a loser, nominated by an out-of-touch, arrogant, politically indebted party leadership. He ran a horrible campaign, hiring pretenders like Carly Fiorina to run it, and when he did something right, (choosing Sarah Palin as his running mate), he did three things wrong to follow. (Allowing political operatives to slime her and set her up even BEFORE election day.)

13 posted on 01/05/2009 5:54:41 AM PST by OKSooner
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To: Guenevere; sarasota

Ditto, Sarasota....and to Guen - I’ll pray for your situation....that’s always difficult.


14 posted on 01/05/2009 5:58:02 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: OKSooner
I'd say that McCain wasn't my candidate in the primary but the simple truth was I couldn't stand any of them. I was leaning towards Mitt at the end but he really wasn't any better than McCain and I might have flipped back.

Rush was right when he described McCain (and the GOP establishment) as Washingtonians.

15 posted on 01/05/2009 6:02:01 AM PST by Tribune7 (Obama wants to put the same crowd that ran Fannie Mae in charge of health care)
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If you "couldn't stand any of them" why do you castigate your fellow Freepers for not voting for McQueeg instead of addressing the real problem?

Rush was being kind and polite when he described the Republican leadership as "Washingtonians". That's just a neutral term that describes where someone is from.

I use a different word that describes what a person IS.

16 posted on 01/05/2009 6:07:13 AM PST by OKSooner
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To: anniegetyourgun

Thank-you....Bless you.


17 posted on 01/05/2009 6:08:01 AM PST by Guenevere
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To: OKSooner
If you "couldn't stand any of them" why do you castigate your fellow Freepers for not voting for McQueeg

Firstly, I was pointing out the Rick Warren was not to blame for McCain's loss which was the subject of this thread.

Secondly, if a Freeper failed to vote for McCain --much less encouraged others not to vote for him, which you had a lot of Freepers doing -- he gave aid and support to those who got a Marxist one-worlder as our president and they deserve a little castigation. Or don't you agree?

Maybe you're one of those sensitive types who think feelings matter more than action. Well your going to get four years of it and hopefully that's all.

18 posted on 01/05/2009 6:14:23 AM PST by Tribune7 (Obama wants to put the same crowd that ran Fannie Mae in charge of health care)
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To: Guenevere
re: "seeker friendly"

The ironic thing is, the Bible states that "seekers" don't actually exist.

Some references:
Romans 3:11 there is no one who understands, no one who seeks God.

and here

19 posted on 01/05/2009 6:22:35 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: sarasota

Those of us who grew with the Graham Crusade...

Perhaps then, you'll remember that Billy was bashed in much the same manner as Rick Warren is being bashed now...by many of the same kinds of fundamentalists, for many of the same reasons.

20 posted on 01/05/2009 6:26:05 AM PST by norge
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