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France foils two Somali pirate attacks, holds 19
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090104/wl_afp/somaliaunrestkidnapfrancecroatiapanama ^ | 01/04/2009

Posted on 01/05/2009 4:20:51 AM PST by darkness78

French warship Sunday foiled attempts by Somalian pirates in the Gulf of Aden to seize two cargo vessels and intercepted 19 people, the French president's office said. "Three days after a French vessel thwarted an attack on a Panamanian cargo ship" the frigate Jean de Vienne conducted a "decisive action" against "two new attacks" it said in a statement. "The 19 Somali pirates who tried to seize the two boats were intercepted," it added, saying they carried weapons, ammunition and material for boarding ships. ...

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: france; frenchtroops; islam; jizyah; maritime; pirates; somalia; somalipirates
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About 40 Somali Pirates have been caught by the French so far...and not a single one by the US... It's getting embarrassing!
1 posted on 01/05/2009 4:20:51 AM PST by darkness78
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To: darkness78
France foils two Somali pirate attacks, holds 19

WHY?
They are pirates/terrorists.
If they are encountered in International Waters they should be shot and dropped into the ocean.
What good does “holding” them do?
They are probably being held in far better conditions then in which they lived so this would not be a deterrent to others.
France nor anyone else will want to hold them indefinitely, so at sometime they will be released to resume their pirating activities.

2 posted on 01/05/2009 4:27:32 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Coming to You From the Front Lines of Occupied America)
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“They are probably being held in far better conditions then in which they lived so this would not be a deterrent to others.”

From what reading I’ve encountered on the matter so far, it appears these pirates are revered, and live quite well at their home in Somalia these days. National hero’s actually.


3 posted on 01/05/2009 4:32:40 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, Call 'em what you will, they ALL have Fairies livin' in their Trees.)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

“If they are encountered in International Waters they should be shot and dropped into the ocean.”

Does this mean that Bush administration is kind of weak proposing to let go most Guantanomos detenais captured in the same condition?


4 posted on 01/05/2009 4:35:11 AM PST by darkness78 (y)
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To: darkness78
"and not a single one by the US"

And until it's determined what should be done with these pirates, let's keep it that way. Let's not start another Gitmo housing project for the world's wayward Muslims. If world opinion won't allow us to "hang them from the yard arm," we should leave them alone until world opinion changes and we can properly dispose of them.

5 posted on 01/05/2009 4:35:39 AM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: rockinqsranch

“From what reading I’ve encountered on the matter so far, it appears these pirates are revered, and live quite well at their home in Somalia these days. National hero’s actually.”

Interesting. Can you post a link to this please?


6 posted on 01/05/2009 4:36:17 AM PST by darkness78 (y)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

They should be “released” with cinder blocks chained to their feet, in about 4,000 feet of water.


7 posted on 01/05/2009 4:37:37 AM PST by Boiling Pots (The USA has become one huge pyramid scheme. Thanks George, John, Nancy and Harry.)
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To: DJ Taylor

“If world opinion won’t allow us to “hang them from the yard arm,” we should leave them alone until world opinion changes and we can properly dispose of them.”

That looks fair ... but what are US warships are doing in these sme waters right now?


8 posted on 01/05/2009 4:37:38 AM PST by darkness78 (y)
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To: rockinqsranch

After a period of detention, they’ll be released into the custody of the Somali government. Oh, wait... there is no Somali government.


9 posted on 01/05/2009 4:40:40 AM PST by ScottinVA (All I needed to know about islam I learned on 9-11.)
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To: SECURE AMERICA
What good does “holding” them do?

What are you suggesting?

That warships (French, US, Indian, whatever) blast the pirates out of the water and off of planet earth?

Are you suggesting that gunfire or threat of gunfire from pirates be returned with massive retaliatory bombardment from ships guns, helicopter gunships or jet fighters?

Are you suggesting that these pirates be turned into a kind of pasty carbon sludge on the surface of the sea?

Are you suggesting that the retaliation be of such force that not a single hair of a single pirate head could be recovered from the sea, even if someone were to search the targeted waters with a fine tooth comb?

Is that the kind of thing that you're suggesting?

If so, it's not a bad suggestion.

10 posted on 01/05/2009 4:40:54 AM PST by samtheman
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To: darkness78

Why is it OK for France to attack these Somalia Muslims far from their own shores but it is not OK for Israel to defend themselves in their own backyard?


11 posted on 01/05/2009 4:44:47 AM PST by IamConservative (Will Work for Bailout)
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To: darkness78
"...but what are US warships are doing in these same waters right now?"

They would probably be there to gather sufficient intelligence information to enable them to strike a decisive blow when the proper time arrives.

12 posted on 01/05/2009 4:53:25 AM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: darkness78

ive been hearing on the radio/reading the same thing. apparently these pirates go back home and spend like a rap video, so the locals love it. myself, i dont have a link.


13 posted on 01/05/2009 5:11:03 AM PST by Disciplinemisanthropy (III III IV)
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To: SECURE AMERICA
I'm sure there's an ad on the Internet in Somalia, and touted in spam emails, saying “Send me $5 and and a SASE and I'll tell you how I became very successful by being a pirate.”

When the literature arrives it simply advises you to buy a rickety old inflatable raft, a few rusty guns and an eye patch, then sit in the sea lane and wait for the French to “hold” you. Good food, health care, clothing, etc. Life in Somalia was never this good!

14 posted on 01/05/2009 5:14:50 AM PST by jwparkerjr (God Bless America!)
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"They would probably be there to gather sufficient intelligence information to enable them to strike a decisive blow when the proper time arrives."

Let the French capture all the pirates and pay all the costs of detaining them. If we catch them, US taxpayers will end up paying for their incarceration.
15 posted on 01/05/2009 5:22:10 AM PST by LetsRok
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To: SECURE AMERICA

The French will have to set up a “Le Guantanamo” of their own.


16 posted on 01/05/2009 5:34:24 AM PST by pfflier
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To: darkness78

Why? Isn’t it about time some other countries show some balls regarding international terrorism? I can’t count the threads that complained we were the world’s police force.


17 posted on 01/05/2009 5:37:41 AM PST by pfflier
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To: darkness78

Good for France!

Now if only they’d support the Israeli cleanup in Gaza...


18 posted on 01/05/2009 5:40:32 AM PST by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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“About 40 Somali Pirates have been caught by the French so far...and not a single one by the US”

This is exactly how it should be. The French have a strong military presence in the Republic of Djibouti, which neighbors Somalia to the north. They have the positioning and presence to take care of the business at hand. Better the French be swatting flies in their own backyard than for us to travel half way around the world with a can of Raid.


19 posted on 01/05/2009 5:41:03 AM PST by Birdsbane (If You Are Employed By A Liberal Democrat...Quit!)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

Note to N. Sarcozy... pull the trigger. The lawyers at the Hague will tie you in knots.


20 posted on 01/05/2009 5:41:14 AM PST by pointsal
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