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First post -- Mods, delete if I messed up -- new to posting.

Cut and paste because I wouldn't put it past NYT to modify this.

My response, typos and all (which Mr "Ethics" will likely ignore):

"And it is noteworthy that she sent her (to me, nutty) e-mail message to her colleagues;"

And that, in a nutshell, is why NYT's stock is in the tank. I suspect, though, that an "ethicist" who is that judgemental is equally unable to see the irony in his own words...

I am,

Awaiting the demise of the MYT

Best wishes,


1 posted on 01/05/2009 4:06:11 AM PST by Peet
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To: Peet
Hmmmm, does this writer have a problem also when the schools have their gay "Day of Silence"?

And that statement about the ACLJ saying that a teacher can't use her classroom as a soapbox for his or her personal beliefs? So how come we don't hear them complaining when they use it to promote global warming hysteria and homosexuality?

2 posted on 01/05/2009 4:22:43 AM PST by 3catsanadog (I plan to give the new President the same respect and dignity the other side gave Bush.)
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To: Peet

The teacher, too, has an ethical right to free expression

Ah actually not.
The teacher is an employee and as an employee is subject to restriction on speech on the job site as any other worker in America is.
Because the “teacher” is entrusted with the care of our children for a period of time, their right to free expression is even more limited.
For example the Math teacher has no “right” to teach that 2+ 3= 87
Or the Art teacher who belives that nudity is the only lifesytle has no right to teach art class naked.
Most Americans forget that free speech only works as long as common sense


3 posted on 01/05/2009 4:35:59 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Coming to You From the Front Lines of Occupied America)
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To: Peet
New York Civil Liberties Union cautions, "She may not turn the classroom into a soapbox for her views on matters unrelated to the curriculum."

I wonder how the ACLU feels about globull warming lectures in class other than science?

4 posted on 01/05/2009 4:44:38 AM PST by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: Peet
I respectfully suggest to the NYCLU that high school teachers, in New York and elsewhere, turn their classrooms into soapboxes for their views, both on- and off-curriculum, all the time.
5 posted on 01/05/2009 4:47:08 AM PST by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: Peet

I would support a pre-emptive attack on Mars, as long as it was combined with an associated attack on Hershey. Morinaga 99% dark chocolate rules!

OK, seriously. It was Chairman Mao who asserted that a hundred flowers should bloom, and a hundred schools of thought contend. Unfortunately for the Chinese, he didn’t really mean what he said, and unfortunately for our students, our public schools, which claim to be unbiased and un-agenda-ed while actively promoting or suppressing various ideologies, don’t follow the Chairman’s teachings either. When modernism, with its emphasis on truth discerned through evidence and reason, is replaced with postmodernism, with its emphasis on truth being nonexistent and therefore being anything those with authority say it is, then there is no education, only indoctrination, and the only recourse is civil disobedience. The silent students are walking in the footsteps of Gandhi and King and Tien An Men, but few will give them the credit they deserve, regardless of belief.


6 posted on 01/05/2009 5:41:21 AM PST by chajin (Malcolm, the reason for the Xmas season)
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To: Peet; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...
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Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of interest.

Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment

Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

11 posted on 01/05/2009 6:22:55 AM PST by narses (http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
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“Although the club’s message is expressed in secular terms, anti-abortion activism is so often bound up in religious sentiment that a religious message can be implicit.”

Wrong.

Slavery wasn’t “wrong” because a religious movement formed the backbone of the agenda to END slavery, nor was the argument against slavery religious in nature.

The same holds for the arguments against massive infanticide (50 million dead in the US).

Barack Hussein Obama said that it was above his paygrade to determine when a fetus is a human deserving of basic human rights as an individual.

Can you be a little bit pregnant? There is your answer.


13 posted on 01/05/2009 6:47:16 AM PST by weegee (Obamunism, just another word for the policies of a NeoCom.)
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To: Peet
Pinged from Terri Dailies


16 posted on 01/05/2009 4:33:22 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Peet

Followup:

Mr Cohen replied to my message but has not since replied to a request to POST his reply so I’ll paraphrase/describe:

First (and to me most telling) he considers the snarky “nutty” PERSONAL insult a valid part of opining on ethics. Yes, insulting based on your personal prejudices SOOoooo enhances your message.

Second, he thinks the NYT is in OK condition — Doood! I hope you have a back-up employment plan. Oh, yeah, it is called “bailout.”

He thinks I see his column because I read the NYT. *snort*


17 posted on 01/06/2009 4:30:45 AM PST by Peet (<- A.K.A. the Foundling)
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