[Mikey]

“Well, apart from the implementation being technically flawed,...”

“...there is a huge value in the government knowing who is a citizen and who is not. This is a necessary step if there is ever to be a real crackdown on illegal immigration or identity theft.”

Maybe, just maybe if our boarders weren’t so damned porous where anyone could just waltz across them at anytime, we wouldn’t need all these intrusive ID schemes.

All it is, is more Big Brother.

When the law that’ll eventually make it mandatory to have a biometric chip inserted into ones body. Will you march on down to the local insertion station to be chipped?

“Personally, I prefer an open source, multi-biometric citizenship database. Cards are kind of stupid, especially when you can be the card.”

Slaves rejoicing in their slavery. Demanding others to be enslaved because they’re to scared to attempt to break the chains of their own enslavement.

"Never do anything against conscience even if the state demands it."

Albert Einstein

“He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetuate it.”

Dr. Martin Luther King

"Our government has kept us in a perpetual state of fear -- kept us in a continuous stampede of patriotic fervour -- with the cry of grave national emergency. Always, there has been some terrible evil at home, or some monstrous foreign power that was going to gobble us up if we did not blindly rally behind it."

Douglas MacArthur

"We cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home."

Edward R. Murrow

“If you love wealth more than Liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the living contest of Freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."

Samuel Adams

"Blind submission to the Administration of the government is not devotion to the country or the Constitution. The administration is not the government."

Edward G. Ryan

[mbraynard]

Listen, I know you're a good guy and all, but you aren't getting it and you come across to me a little like the 911 truther people.

1) While you can reduce illegal immigration at the border, you can't eliminate it. Really, with a few easy steps, you can end economic immigration without a fence at all - just by doing some interior enforcement to deny illegals the ability to get a job or to get public services. Pat Buchanan got this right. But this is only feasible if the enforcement agencies can identify WHO YOU ARE.

2) Suggesting this will lead to putting chips into people is what troubles me most about your comments. You don't NEED to put a chip on a person because each person already has several 'chips.' Finger prints, retinas, DNA, etc.

3) Be it identity theft or legal status, there needs to be an absolute way to identify that you are who you say you are.

4) Remember, I said an 'open source' multi-biometric database. Making it open sourced will prevent abuse of the system and will also allow the brightest minds to be able to identify flaws in the system.