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To: Mogwai

So once the baby is conceived, by her choice or by an “accident” of the biology of teenage lust -

then what? Live in shame forever? In your small mind, I would suppose so.

People with attitudes like yours give “social conservative” a real bad taste in the mouth. People with attitudes like yours, with only a slighly different upbringing, see justice in stoning women and rape victims to death for adultery (”they should have kept their legs together....what will society become if we do not punish them?”)

People like you would have killed Mary the mother of Christ if Joseph had not protected her with his name and honor.

yeesh. You are no more a “social conservative” than Obama, who would see an unwanted conceived and even a live born child as a “punishment” and evidence of a shameful sin.... sex without marriage

“Out of wedlock pregnancy”- stupid and often in these times- very very VERY selfish. But not always. There are circumstances where coould have walked any one of us or someone we love.

“Out of wedlock birth”- welcome the child into the world? Not you. Brand it with a scarlet letter of “B” for bastard”

“Social conservatives” with YOUR attitude contribute to the growth of ABORTION as an alternative to a lifetime of “shame”. Yes, unmarried girls would not want you “social conservatives” to look at them and see their shame- so they abort.

Shame on you.


89 posted on 01/02/2009 10:02:22 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: silverleaf

You’re assuming and presuming way too much. I don’t support stigmatizing the child born out of wedlock; he has no reponsibility. The parents are the ones who by their own volition perpetuate bastardy, and I think it just that society should deplore and not celebrate their behavior. As a Christian I believe in redemption and rehabilitation in society, but it must be sought and achieved through right acts and living. Not awarded automatically and immediately. Get a job, work hard, recognize one’s wrong actions, teach the kid better. “Yeah, they did wrong but they’ve straightened up. Good folks.” will be my reaction several years down the line if they do the right thing. Where you go on about killing Mary and comparing me to Muslims and saying I’d consign children born out of wedlock to lives of shame, you’re attacking a straw man.


116 posted on 01/02/2009 11:04:29 AM PST by Mogwai (We've gone through the looking-glass)
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To: silverleaf

Gotta bump this... once again you hit it on the head!


149 posted on 01/03/2009 9:52:18 PM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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