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1 posted on 01/01/2009 4:14:25 AM PST by pobeda1945
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Comrade 0bama will cancel the F-22. It is the inherent nature of Marxists to weaken America to the advantage of our enemies, while pouring money into their Communistic agenda and of course, into their corrupt pockets.

Goodbye Raptor, it was nice while it lasted, which wasn’t long.


2 posted on 01/01/2009 4:18:39 AM PST by mkjessup
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3 posted on 01/01/2009 4:24:48 AM PST by TommyDale (I) (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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I know my AF buddies think there is no such thing as a “too expensive” fighter plane, but if there ever was one, the F-22 might be it. Up graded F-16’s and F-18’s can answer the mail for at least another decade.
4 posted on 01/01/2009 4:24:58 AM PST by NavVet ( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)
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Obama needs the money to create the “domestic army” he wants to use against Americans.


5 posted on 01/01/2009 4:28:01 AM PST by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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I am betting on “plausible deniability” will keep Obama in the dark about our most secretive and technically advanced projects.Just like the episode in Independance Day the movie and the aliens hidden away from the Presidents.

No sense in giving a monkey a loaded gun.


7 posted on 01/01/2009 4:29:47 AM PST by Eye of Unk (How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words! SA)
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What will Obama do about the F-22?

Sell the plans to the Chinese in exchange for campaign contributions?
9 posted on 01/01/2009 4:32:35 AM PST by Boris99
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What will Obama do about the F-22?

The same thing he will do about everything else - what he is told to do. Obama would not know an F-22 from a Formula-1 car.
The man has no experience that qualified him for this position.


11 posted on 01/01/2009 4:34:28 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Coming to You From the Front Lines of Occupied America)
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I figger it will take His O-ness about 6 months to decide just exactly what an F-22 is....


15 posted on 01/01/2009 4:48:06 AM PST by mo
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The F-22 is so much superior to enemy aircraft that the Russians and Chinese are screaming “Unfair!” That should tell us all something.


16 posted on 01/01/2009 4:51:25 AM PST by TommyDale (I) (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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Very impressive F22 video here:

Link

18 posted on 01/01/2009 4:57:14 AM PST by labette ( Humble student of Thinkology)
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They might decide, as the Bush administration has, that the F-22 is superfluous and that the money is needed for other priorities.

Even a stopped clock is correct twice a day, here the jorge administration is correct.

19 posted on 01/01/2009 4:59:11 AM PST by org.whodat (Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts for Super-Rich Bankers! Republicans do!)
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If only oumoney could buy politicians of the exceptional quality of the F-22 Raptor!


20 posted on 01/01/2009 4:59:24 AM PST by RoadTest (The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? - Jer.17:9)
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I don't know how Benevolent Leader Comrade Obama will do about the F-22. He may follow Comrade Representative Frank's advice, and decide that the F-22 is one of those unnecessary defense programs that must be eliminated, or he may decide to split the baby in half, and ask for only 20-30 aircraft. If you follow the Democrat's recently acquired practice of insisting on nothing but the "best" (body armor, armored vehicles, small arms) for our soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan (and damn the field testing and additional expense), then 60 more F-22s make good sense.

I believe that the USAF Chiefs have the best interests of the country, and the pilots who will have to face 21st Century threats sooner than most retired "defense analysts" imagine (the Chinese have proven far more adept and innovative with high tech than anyone would have dreamed twenty years ago). That having been said, this debate serves to mask the real question: whether we really need to get on with the production of smaller, less expensive, more maneuverable, deadly and stealthy "unmanned aerial vehicles", the UAV.

23 posted on 01/01/2009 5:22:37 AM PST by pawdoggie
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Informative article and impressive video, thanks for sharing !


24 posted on 01/01/2009 5:23:49 AM PST by SouthDixie (We are but angels with one wing, it takes two to fly.)
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Have all of that aircraft grade aluminum beaten into 22” rims.....


25 posted on 01/01/2009 5:32:02 AM PST by Feckless (No Birth Certificate... No Peace)
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Sad when allies like Japan, Israel and Australia say they would buy them but people here don't think we should.

The F-22 is expensive, but it's way beyond anything we or anyone else has (now). It's a complete package, so we are not buying simply an advanced airframe and equally advanced engines, but also all the advanced electronics and software along with support. Considering how long we keep these assets in our inventory and the decades of use and abuse they receive, not to mention how well they do their jobs and bring their pilots home, I'd say we more than get our money's worth.

Our aircraft have not had to go up against any air force of consequence, so we swagger about sure in the knowledge our early 70s airplanes are the best in the world and more upgrades will keep them omnipotent for another 30 years. Too bad it's not true. Recently, F-15s have been grounded after structural failures and due to structural cracks found during inspections. The F-117 is now obsolete and retired. The latest from Sukhoi are more than a match for the F-15.

Pre-Pearl Harbor thinking killed a lot of Americans as it meant we were completely outclassed with our cute P-26s and out matched F4Fs and P-40s when we really needed them. Failing to take our enemies seriously meant that "inferior" MiG-17s shot down quite a few USAF and USN pilots in Vietnam. That kind of history doesn't have to repeat itself unless we choose it. Any new airplane has to be designed to handle any current or potential threat along with those we have no way of predicting and then survive decades of extreme service. You don't buy that at K-mart.

26 posted on 01/01/2009 5:34:36 AM PST by GBA
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Hmmmm. Sixty times $180 million is a little less than $11 billion.

How much was it that they gave to the UAW, oops, I mean the auto makers?

They could take that unused $350 billion bailout money and nearly double the military budget. And that would be constitutional.


27 posted on 01/01/2009 5:52:02 AM PST by CPOSharky (Coming up: Four years of Jimmuh Cartah on crack.)
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Maybe a stupid question, but why the F-22 when the F-35 is set for production? Do they really have different missions/capabilities?

Methinks, that for the kind of war we are fighting - urban guerrilla - what we need is a smaller, heavily armed aircraft. Something like the AD Skyraider or the A4D Skyhawk would do the job - after upgrading.

44 posted on 01/01/2009 7:07:19 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners.)
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What will Obama do about the F-22?

He'll make sure the assembly line becomes a UAW shop, then go ahead with the program. ;)

48 posted on 01/01/2009 7:13:44 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("One man's 'magic' is another man's engineering. 'Supernatural' is a null word." -- Robert Heinlein)
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Rahm to Obammy: “What do you want to do about the F-22?”

Obammy: “Is that the new Blackberry? Get me one.”


56 posted on 01/01/2009 7:22:40 AM PST by webschooner
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