[an amused spectator]

I suppose you are arguing that the amount of diminished capacity involved exists in the mind. That is fine, but the amount of alcohol in the blood needed to meet the legal minimums is so high it guarantees diminished capacity.

No, I'm arguing that you haven't done anything.

When you actually do something, a rope and the nearest tree is good enough for me.

They don't actually string anybody up when the person kills or maims someone while drunk. This is the problem.

It's kind of like the lawyer problem. They stopped dueling in this country when they realized that they'd lose a lot of mouthy lawyers.

[Uhaul]

Well we disagree on when to string them up but agree on the stringing up part. Either way the effect would be the same. Very few people would take the risk of driving drunk. Problem solved.

But we can’t do that - we’re too “compassionate”. We would rather slaughter 15,000 innocents a year than make the guilty an example of what not to do. We would rather smother everyone in a heavy handed police state than deal with the real issue.

[lentulusgracchus]

It's kind of like the lawyer problem. They stopped dueling in this country when they realized that they'd lose a lot of mouthy lawyers.

They stopped duelling when they lost Alexander Hamilton in one. When they lost Hamilton, the New York business community was set back 50 years -- and then they had to fight a civil war to get what they wanted.