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To: Ron Jeremy; hreardon; PhilosopherStones; elkfersupper
Ron Jeremy
"Now, what if when you applied for a license, you had to agree to be stopped and have your DNA taken for a national DNA database?"

If that's what you agreed to, where are the grounds for objection?  DNA is no different from a blood sample or a breathalyzer test.  Not in this context at any rate

"Do you think the founding fathers would have thought traveling the highways a right and not a privilege?"

I absolutely believe exactly that....  the ability to freely travel and by the common mode of transportation would definitely be seen as a "right" by the authors of the Constitution.   I'm not advocating you try that today, but there is no doubt it would be seen as a right by those men were they alive today.

hreardon
"Matter of fact in recent years they’ve been busting folks on bicycles and riding lawn mowers for DUI."

I have read of a few of these cases, but I can't help but believe any attorney worth his bar certificate could get those cases thrown out in less than 15 minutes.

PhilosopherStones
"You can not, for example, contract yourself into involuntary servitude."

Your statement is completely logical.  Any time you "contract yourself" it is not involuntary.   You certainly CAN contract yourself into VOLUNTARY servitude should you wish.  There are several ingredients that make a valid contract, but assuming the pieces are all there,  it's perfectly legal.  Involuntary servitude is not legal, but you can contract to serve someone any time you like.  A normal job is something of a voluntary servitude contract for example

elkfersupper
"So, in order to insure our liberty, we should all surrender our "driver licenses" and decline to "request" a replacement."

Anyone who spends any time studying Constitutional law will be familiar with at least a couple such people who have done so.  Not what I recommend unless you're independently wealthy and enjoy the time spent explaining yourself, but I know of at least one person who was in court something like 22 different times over a 2 year period and was acquitted each and every instance before they decided to leave the man alone.  As I said, it's not what I would advocate, but it's not a completely foreign concept either.


442 posted on 12/31/2008 10:54:50 PM PST by Lloyd227 (Class of 1998 (let's all help the Team McCain spider monkeys decide how to moderate))
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To: Lloyd227

Another example would be that you can not contract for sexual services. There was a case last year stemming from a craigslist.org ad from a man who wished to rent out a room in his house in compensation for sexual rather than monetary favors.

He was arrested and thrown in jail under pandering laws.


445 posted on 12/31/2008 11:07:39 PM PST by PhilosopherStones
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To: Lloyd227

An excellent post, counselor.


573 posted on 01/01/2009 5:53:48 PM PST by elkfersupper
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