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Medics Caught on Tape Allegedly Decided Disabled Man Not Worth Saving
The Times ^ | 12/31/2008 | Staff

Posted on 12/31/2008 9:48:46 AM PST by Red in Blue PA

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To: null and void
The slippery slope is coated with ice here already. People like you and others who have disabled loved ones are keen to what is happening and very concerned about the future.

We were in Florida several weeks back. Went to the Kennedy Space Center where it appeared we were the only Americans. The Europeans seemed to be in the majority. Now we are very use to gawkers of all sorts. We choose not to stay home with our profoundly disabled son. Well these folks were different than any other we have ever encountered. Their gawks were also accompanied by looks of disdain. Almost as if we were responsible for ruining their day out. When they had to wait for our son to be boarded on the handicap bus their looks grew to anger and agitation. It was a quick look into their souls and a look into America's future. Currently when out with our son the gawking appears to be curiosity driven with many smiles mixed in. On that long day at KSC there was 1 smile.

Pray for America like you never did before. Do everything in your power to stop this avalanche before it starts. Also, smile at a less fortunate individual as you look at them. If they are alone, praise them for their strength and courage to do life in spite of their many challenges. It will encourage them and also continue to set America apart from the rest of the world.

41 posted on 12/31/2008 10:43:35 AM PST by 4Godsoloved..Hegave
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To: Vermont Lt
While most emergency medical professionals and volunteers are in the field for the right reasons, there are some that do play God. Equally appalling is death and disability caused by inadequate training and supervision, even in hospital settings. Cost versus benefit you know.
42 posted on 12/31/2008 10:51:30 AM PST by buckalfa (confused and bewildered)
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To: clee1

*shrug* YMMV


43 posted on 12/31/2008 10:55:47 AM PST by null and void (Petroglyphs. The original cliffs notes...)
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To: 4Godsoloved..Hegave

The first mass killing, around 1934 or so, were of the healthy, but sever handicap, and even mildly retarded in Nazi Germany. That was an easy group with absolute few advocates, and somewhat well supported ideologically by the German opinion class.

Efficiency, scientific society, healthy breeding and all that...


44 posted on 12/31/2008 10:58:34 AM PST by Leisler
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To: buckalfa
Yes. I certainly have no problem with the hospital's need to know the wishes of the patient and family.

My only problems are the obvious editorial bias of the Dr. and the fact that the discussion was held in front of my dad, without including him in the conversation.

He's still a human being. For now.

45 posted on 12/31/2008 10:59:34 AM PST by null and void (Petroglyphs. The original cliffs notes...)
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To: 4Godsoloved..Hegave

Thanks.


46 posted on 12/31/2008 11:02:03 AM PST by null and void (Petroglyphs. The original cliffs notes...)
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To: clee1
Full life-support measures are only effective long-term on young, healthy people that have an accident that caused their code.

There are always exceptions to every rule. My mother, at 71 coded in the hospital, was rushed to ICU and put on life support. After 9 days the doc called the family in and said they had done all they could do and was going to remove life support. Wanted us all there so if there was anything we wanted to say or ask, time would be limited......2 hours to 2 days probably.

Within half an hour of taking her off, she was sitting up in a chair, feeding herself. A few days later she went home and lived 2 more years. She died from an unrelated condition. She also showed NO effects from the experience, she was as she had always been.

47 posted on 12/31/2008 11:12:48 AM PST by YellowRoseofTx (Evil is not the opposite of God; it's the absence of God)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Fire them.

Welcome to ObamaCare.


48 posted on 12/31/2008 11:14:34 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Yorlik803

Volunteerism is all about dropping a turkey into the food bin around the holidays....as long as “the news team you know and can trust!” is there to capture the blessed event on video.


49 posted on 12/31/2008 1:50:24 PM PST by randog (Hope is a bad business plan.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

This one for some reason just gave me chills.

To think that those that have chosen, not forced mind you but chosen to be rescue workers, to save lives can suddenly decide your not worth saving and to let you die is just chilling.

JB


50 posted on 12/31/2008 1:54:19 PM PST by thatjoeguy (Just my thoughts)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

Exactly. This one just happened to get recorded. I hope they investigate every other death at emergency scenes these buffoons were called to. But I won’t hold my breath.


51 posted on 12/31/2008 2:01:50 PM PST by informavoracious
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To: null and void

Never ever sign an advance directive. They do not read them. They only know that if there is one it is a DNR


52 posted on 12/31/2008 2:13:22 PM PST by Chickensoup (we owe HUSSEIN & Democrats the exact kind respect & loyalty that they showed us, Bush & Reagan)
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To: YellowRoseofTx

Agreed.

I see miracles weekly (I am an ICU nurse). However, most of the time, codes do not end up in a good outcome.


53 posted on 12/31/2008 4:20:57 PM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: SW6906

More like welcome to a post-Christian society.

Isn’t the thing that sticks out in this story first the incredible lack of love they display?


54 posted on 01/01/2009 2:37:24 AM PST by MoTiger
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To: MoTiger

Just to add one more thing ... this proves that civilization is about more than capitalism.


55 posted on 01/01/2009 2:38:56 AM PST by MoTiger
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To: randog

Take a look at the pay scale of EMTs in what ever state
you live in, you might be horrified to know that your emergency provider is just above minimum wage, I had a friend who was an EMT in Alabama his pay was around ten
or twelve dollars an hour, I made more as a welder than he did, yet the lives of people were in his hands every day.
My friend was a highly skilled practioner but some of the people he had to work with.....

One can only imagine how things would be under socialized medicine!


56 posted on 01/01/2009 2:49:50 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
Majority is correct. I am disabled, but have a very good life that I treasure. However, lately I have battled prostate cancer and believe some of my Dr's see my disability and do not provide the care I should get. At 54, I have a long time to live, and the fact that I am in a wheelchair should NOT impact my medical care. But, I have to insist on treatment, and work researching to make sure I am getting proper treatment. What a shame this story is, but all too true.
57 posted on 01/01/2009 6:28:05 AM PST by devane617 (...And to the Republic For Which It Stood...)
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To: wagglebee

It’s part and parcel of the system that let’s a man die of an infection in the hospital or a woman who gives birth on the hospital floor because they make emergency cases wait.

The decline and fall of western civilization continues unabated.


58 posted on 01/01/2009 6:31:19 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Ron Jeremy

The sounds of them trying would have been picked up. IF they were concentrating on what they were doing, there wouldn’t have been time for them to make comments on the condition of his house.

Read the article.


59 posted on 01/01/2009 6:32:59 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: tbpiper

Keep telling people that. Maybe it will wake them up.


60 posted on 01/01/2009 6:34:37 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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