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To: stockpirate; MHGinTN; Star Traveler

So this Dark Socrates dude - Jimmy Korir (Chief editor of something or other) is a college student whose purpose was originally to argue with creationists, since he is an atheist and wants to promote atheism.

So he invented for the first time in history, a reverse Socratic method, and all this stuff - Berg, Hale and the African tapes - are all his mind game. ?

He describes this thing on the last video. “Stupid people should be punished”. And I would assume that among “stupid people” he includes anyone who believes in God. It is clear by watching this video that this guy - whoever he is - is a demoniac, narcisstic psychopath who wants to cause harm. He’s talking about feeding into peoples’ stupidity - and wanting to hurt them, up to and including physical harm. He talks about anti-vaccine people, people who think the world is going to end in 2012, and fooling them by impoverishing them and causing them illness. He doesn’t mention 0bama, Hale or anything related. He uses foul language and is obviously a very evil young man.

I don’t see any evidence that he is this Korir fellow but what do I know. He mentions that he is in college and he looks to be in his early 20s.

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315 posted on 01/01/2009 4:02:56 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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You said (or asked) — “So this Dark Socrates dude - Jimmy Korir (Chief editor of something or other) is a college student whose purpose was originally to argue with creationists, since he is an atheist and wants to promote atheism.”

No, first of all this guy in the tape is not Chief Editor Korir. For those who were following the story (over at API) Chief Editor Korir was identified and he admitted to his identification on the website, as being from Kenya and having this “news site” and living in Norway (I believe it was Norway, but I would have to check) at the time.

He has several reporters who report on African news, and all of a sudden he came up with this story about Michelle Obama calling and saying that Obama was born in Kenya. Well, that’s right up Chief Editor Korir’s alley.

And by the way, the “ole chief’ is apparently married, has children and was (for a time) a diplomat for Kenya, but got into some hot water and also (apparently) has an arrest warrant for him in Kenya... LOL...

He had a picture of himself, on the news website (for African news) and he had to admit to some of these troubles because others dug it out, when investigating him (and especially after this Michelle Obama tape).

Now, this other guy is simply someone who conveys the “message” of what the Dark Socratic methodology is. If I or others said, simply, its name, it wouldn’t mean anything. I wouldn’t figure it out and most everyone else wouldn’t figure it out. So, what Chief Editor Korir was doing is giving people *what* the Dark Socratic Methodology is — and explaining why he (apparently) gave the “Michelle Obama tape” back to Obama (as if there ever was one) — and then referred everyone over to the “Dark Socratic methodology” (explained by someone else) ... LOL...

On his other message, and on his group discussions, which he had in some chat rooms with others that frequented his news site, he admitted what he was doing (according to the blogs and other viewers who were trying to dig out what his hoax was). And that’s when he referred people over to that video. It’s an “explanation” and then he shut down everything and dropped the whole hoax...

Now, it remains to be seen if Ed Hale decides to do the same thing or not. If there one problem and then a delay and then another reason and then another reason — then we’ll know that Ed Hale has taken lessons from Chief Editor Korir... :-)

You said — “So he invented for the first time in history, a reverse Socratic method, and all this stuff - Berg, Hale and the African tapes - are all his mind game. ?”

It was an absolutely magnificent mind game, if I’ve ever seen one... LOL.. I’ve seen others who have played along with the “Nigerian 419 Scam” game, too — and it’s absolutely hilarious. You get some Nigerian scammer, and you play along with him, trying to comply with his demands for money and the delays that he’s encountered and you do a “419 scam” on him, instead. I’ve seen those and they will absolutely crack you up.

Well, this Chief Editor Korir, really played this one to the hilt, with hundreds and hundreds of viewers going right along with him, trying to help him get the tapes to Fox News and Berg signed on as his lawyer and Ed Hale was clamoring for releasing the tape on his show.

I saw some others comment that they’ve never seen a finer “player” of this game than Chief Editor Korir... LOL..

I wouldn’t doubt, either, that he’s associated with the Obamites — and that this is *precisely* the strategy of the Obamites to derail a lot of the conservatives, just like Chief Editor Korir did...

And then you said — “He describes this thing on the last video. “Stupid people should be punished”. And I would assume that among “stupid people” he includes anyone who believes in God. It is clear by watching this video that this guy - whoever he is - is a demoniac, narcisstic psychopath who wants to cause harm. He’s talking about feeding into peoples’ stupidity - and wanting to hurt them, up to and including physical harm. He talks about anti-vaccine people, people who think the world is going to end in 2012, and fooling them by impoverishing them and causing them illness. He doesn’t mention 0bama, Hale or anything related. He uses foul language and is obviously a very evil young man.”

Yes, I would agree for the most part. He is an evil-minded person, in what he says about God and those who believe in God. However, the “methodology” isn’t *only* for those who believe in God — you see, he’s basically saying that his ideas are all “logical” and those others’ ideas are all illogical. So, since he can’t “prove it to them” — he will “punish them” instead.

Therefore, what we see here is a basic “methodology” in which you can apply that to anyone (whether they believe in God or not). And here — it’s applied in the “polltical sphere” in getting people to believe in some outlandish ideas and then — “slam them down” at the very end — by producing the evidence that shows that they’ve been *fooled* all along. Hence that’s the “punishing” them.

And here is where I can see that Obamites have created this “issue” that they will use to later *slam down hard* all the conservatives that have harped on this issue — when they produce the hard evidence to show that they’ve all been fools from the beginning.

How do you “create this” in the first place — basically by “hiding” what you do have — but you make it seem that you don’t have it. And then when you’ve played the game long enough — and got a lot of “political capital” out of it — you “slam them down” and pull out your documentation that you’ve had all along... LOL..

That’s what I see is happening...

And finally you said — “I don’t see any evidence that he is this Korir fellow but what do I know. He mentions that he is in college and he looks to be in his early 20s.”

No, this guy in the video is not Chief Editor Korir. Korir is a Kenyan, a black guy and is short and stubby and sorta fat. I think (if I remember right), that Chief Editor Korir *also* said that he is related to the Obama family... now that’s a hoot...

The guy in the video is simply explaining what is meant by the Dark Socratic methodology, that’s all. Chief Editor Korir (a different guy, from Kenya) is pointing to this to explain that this is what he is doing...


318 posted on 01/01/2009 4:32:09 PM PST by Star Traveler
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