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The breakup of the U.S. (WorldnetDaily's Joseph Farah takes Russian prediction seriously)
WorldnetDaily ^ | Dec 30,2008 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 12/30/2008 4:52:31 PM PST by SeekAndFind

In 1990, few were predicting the breakup of the Soviet Union.

But it came – only a year later.

With 2009 set to begin in a few days, there is someone predicting the breakup of the United States – a year from now.

His name is Igor Panarin, a former KGB analyst and dean of the Russian Foreign Ministry's school for foreign diplomats – in other words, a serious fellow.

For him, it's nothing new. He's been making the same prediction for last 10 years. But, until recently, no one took him seriously. And then came the economic calamity that has rocked Americans and the rest of the world, too. Now, Panarin's predictions of an end of the United States, due to economic and moral collapse, is being taken seriously by many.

Panarin blames out-of-control mass immigration, economic decline and moral degradation for what he believes could be a civil war as early as next fall and a total collapse of the dollar. By June or July of 2010, he sees the U.S. breaking into six pieces.

Now, I'm not buying into Panarin's entire prediction. But I do think there's something to it.

I've been talking about this possibility more and more in recent years. I don't see how this house of cards we're building can possibly withstand the next significant windstorm. The political ties no longer bind. Only inertia and the threat of force hold us together.

The economic crisis is clearly visible to all – but all the wrong buttons are being pushed. In fact, the same people who got us into this mess are digging a deeper hole for all of us to climb out of.

The other two crises he points to have scarcely even been recognized by many people – out-of-control immigration and moral rot.

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To: 1rudeboy

Can I get a Jack Cashill book too!?


41 posted on 12/30/2008 5:20:53 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: SeekAndFind
"I want to remind you that New Hampshire and Virginia voted FOR Barack Obama and the Democrats."

My point, exactly. They have already been overrun.

42 posted on 12/30/2008 5:22:00 PM PST by calenel (The Democratic Party is a Criminal Enterprise. It is the Socialist Mafia.)
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To: Nuc1

Put your money in metals. ammo and firearms, I imagine it will turn out like the last War of Northern Agression, only sooner. We dont have the cohesion to rebel and Obana’s Brownshirts will crush us like a bug. Store at least a years supply of food and pray for deliverance.
barbra ann


43 posted on 12/30/2008 5:23:04 PM PST by barb-tex (Buy all the firearms ammo and Automobiles before the advent of the Barney Frank Mobile.)
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To: barb-tex

I tell you why his prediction of US break up is unbelievable. It seems like he’s not aware of local sentiment in the area he thinks will break up. California under China influence?! California will more likely go with Mexico than China. Alaska under Russia?! With Palin as Govenor. Not likely


44 posted on 12/30/2008 5:29:25 PM PST by 4rcane
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To: been_lurking
Thank goodness for that. Now that WND has "blessed" the prediction, you have 100% assurance that it won't happen.

I don't have as strong an opinion of WND as you do. Never knew they had to "bless" predictions, for example.

The US does not exist in Revelations, that's a given. Taking from the working red states to give to the free-loading blue states (Wall Street bailout, Detroit bailout, NY state bailout) is what started the Civil War. If you know your history, you'll know this is true.

Maybe you want to take all the kookie pieces and put them in the big picture before you start posting whacko - pointing fingers stuff. It only underscores how close minded even the so-called open-minded can be. Whether you personally like/support/generally agree with the site/author or not.

There's a whole bunch of stuff out there. FR is the place to put the pieces together, as we've done in the past. Don't close doors before we even went through them.

45 posted on 12/30/2008 5:29:47 PM PST by PistolPaknMama (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't! --FReeper airborne)
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To: Jet Jaguar
I know a few states that should be kicked out of the union. Let them fend for themselves.

You would stand a far better chance of success that way but still, all states contribute to the whole. Also, even a peaceful breakup would end up in multiple wars. Or we could look at the inevitable weakness of all that would result.

As far as those who would like to secede. They talk about taking states and forming their own countries. What they don't mention are the large built in resistance made up of people in those states who wisely don't want to secede. What do they do with them? Do the "oppressed" become the oppressor?

It doesn't take a lot of thought to recognize the foolishness of such talk.
46 posted on 12/30/2008 5:30:57 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: been_lurking

Second of all, the financial collapse —OF THE ENTIRE GLOBE — was orchestrated, with B0 in the middle of it. You still want to talk WND, who is only a messenger, or expand your view of the big picture?


47 posted on 12/30/2008 5:33:45 PM PST by PistolPaknMama (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't! --FReeper airborne)
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To: PistolPaknMama

Actually, you have it backwards — the Blue states regularly support the Red States. New York, of instance, regularly gets back about 75 cents for every dollar it sends to Washington. Alabama gets back about $1.25.

The Tax Foundation has done a detailed study of the distribution of taxes.


48 posted on 12/30/2008 5:33:50 PM PST by durasell
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To: 4rcane

The part I liked was the fantasy of the midwest and central US under Canadian control. That would end with our first election as Canadian citizens. I doubt Canada really wants a sudden infusion of 100 million or so Americans.


49 posted on 12/30/2008 5:34:17 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: cripplecreek

You’re right, there is nothing good that could come out of any scenario.


50 posted on 12/30/2008 5:34:31 PM PST by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: cripplecreek
I stand my ground a fight for my home.

I will stand my ground and fight for my home as well. But I WILL NOT fight to keep Virginia subservient to an overarching federal government or united to liberal, socialist states like NY or the states of New England or MI, or IL, MN, WI, WA, OR or CA. They can all pretty much go to hell for all I care.

51 posted on 12/30/2008 5:35:46 PM PST by pgkdan
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To: SeekAndFind

A nation like the US will only break up when it can no longer afford to pay the soldiers to pull triggers - which may be closer than we think.


52 posted on 12/30/2008 5:39:26 PM PST by The Duke (I have met the enemy, and he is named 'Apathy'!)
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To: SeekAndFind

lelle guess ... barak’ll fix it ?


53 posted on 12/30/2008 5:40:15 PM PST by daku (Obama has experience pouring out of those big ears of his.)
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To: SeekAndFind

lemme guess ... barak’ll fix it ?


54 posted on 12/30/2008 5:40:32 PM PST by daku (Obama has experience pouring out of those big ears of his.)
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To: cripplecreek

if some of you guys are so against seccession and think unity is better, then why do you oppose amero


55 posted on 12/30/2008 5:40:32 PM PST by 4rcane
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To: SeekAndFind

Mr. Obama, Tear down the wall!


56 posted on 12/30/2008 5:41:22 PM PST by classified
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To: pgkdan

Personally I would rather see conservatives pull their heads out of their butts and stop voting for stupid crap like name recognition, and charisma.


57 posted on 12/30/2008 5:45:02 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: SeekAndFind

JAT but what if you took one state and saturated it with conservatives. Once we had the “right” leaders in office and everything constitutional again we add another state until we get our country back. All legal.


58 posted on 12/30/2008 5:46:36 PM PST by CindyDawg (Lord, please bless America)
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To: 4rcane
if some of you guys are so against seccession and think unity is better, then why do you oppose amero

Well genius, it has to do with the fact that I don't want to dillute America.
59 posted on 12/30/2008 5:46:59 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: PistolPaknMama

Before the door closes, we should remember that much of what was special about this country is now gone. I don’t think Farah’s article is that far-fetched, though it would certainly take time.

As a country we are in a moral and economic pit. It’s hard to see how we extract ourselves given the current state of the education system, border control, and a shredded currency.


60 posted on 12/30/2008 5:47:11 PM PST by Phillipian
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