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Why Detroit Has an Especially Bad Union Problem
Wall Street Journal ^ | December 30, 2008 | Logan Robinson

Posted on 12/30/2008 5:30:21 AM PST by reaganaut1

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How is it that successful executives become so unsuccessful as soon as they move to Detroit? Also, how can we explain that whenever GM, Ford and Chrysler leave our shores, they compete well in foreign markets as varied as Europe, South America and China? What makes them viable competitors as soon as they cross the border?

One can point to state franchise laws, or to the federal government's Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) regulations. But the most striking difference appears to be that the Detroit Three are unionized, and the foreign transplants are, overwhelmingly, not. (The exceptions are the transplants that have historic ties to the Detroit Three, like NUMMI, the GM-Toyota venture in California.) Yet the issue can't just be about wage rates. The foreign transplants pay well, and the UAW has given significant concessions in recent bargaining.

It is perhaps the mode of doing business in a unionized company that remains a crippling disadvantage. The UAW is arguably the most successful industrial union of all time. But its very strength has allowed it to permeate into every aspect of manufacturing in the Detroit Three.

The collective bargaining agreement with the UAW is a heavily negotiated document the size of a small telephone book. It is virtually identical for each of the Detroit Three, owing to "pattern" bargaining, but it doesn't exist at all in their U.S. competition, the nonunionized transplants. Not only work rules, but fundamental business decisions to sell, close or spin-off plants are forbidden without permission. That permission may come, but only at a price, since everything that affects the workplace must be negotiated.

Both the UAW and the Detroit Three maintain large staffs of lawyers, contract administrators, and financial and human-resources representatives whose principal job is to negotiate with the other side.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: automakers; detroit; uaw; unionmadejunk; unions
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One Freeper has been posting a photo of the Ford UAW contract, which appears to be a foot or more thick. If the so-called "Employee Free Choice Act" becomes law, this sort of inefficiency will destroy many American companies.
1 posted on 12/30/2008 5:30:22 AM PST by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

Toyota, Honda, etc. are unionized... everywhere except the United States. They have factories in Asia, Europe and Latin America... all unionized.


2 posted on 12/30/2008 5:33:50 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: reaganaut1

During the Motor City Bowl, the biggest commercial was made by the Carpenter’s union. The whole time, all I could think was “Lions 0-16” along with some Labor Thugs beating up some guy working on his own house.


3 posted on 12/30/2008 5:35:27 AM PST by MuttTheHoople
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To: reaganaut1

Anyone with a fraction of a brain knows that the UAW is nothing more than an anachronistic behemoth that sucks the life out of companies.

Simply put, the ‘bailout’ of the Big Three is nothing more than a UAW bailout. Let them all go under, then watch them re-emerge in the South sans UAW. We all know this is exactly what would happen, and would allow the Big Three to thrive, not just survive.

This is what so many of us find SO frustrating. The unions own the Dems, the Dems are in control, so common sense and the free enterprise system take a back seat to political expediency.

Stomach-turning.


4 posted on 12/30/2008 5:38:46 AM PST by RightOnline
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To: reaganaut1
If the so-called "Employee Free Choice Act" becomes law, this sort of inefficiency will destroy many American companies.

Perhaps that's the plan. Yeah, that's the ticket...stamp out capitalism wherever it is found...

More from the article:

As the Obama administration takes the helm, the key political question is whether the Democratic Party, which has so benefited from union support, will have the courage to push the UAW into a more reasonable relationship with the Detroit Three.

I highly doubt it.

5 posted on 12/30/2008 5:40:22 AM PST by MaggieCarta (We're all Detroiters now.)
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To: RightOnline
...This is what so many of us find SO frustrating. The unions own the Dems, the Dems are in control, so common sense and the free enterprise system take a back seat to political expediency.

Stomach-turning.

Yes, it is. But, no worries, we'll all have "free" health care soon.

6 posted on 12/30/2008 5:42:44 AM PST by MaggieCarta (We're all Detroiters now.)
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To: reaganaut1

I used to know someone, an IRS employee, whose job it was to represent the government in negotiations with the IRS employees’ union. The stories he would tell me were horrifying.


7 posted on 12/30/2008 5:44:10 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: grellis

Michigan ping!


8 posted on 12/30/2008 5:44:55 AM PST by MaggieCarta (We're all Detroiters now.)
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Yes, and this is only the tip of the iceberg. Michigan will never recover economically until these auto companies go broke or move to other states.

MI is not a right-to-work state and that’s the real problem that will keep this place a cesspool. There is no chance that will change until everyone has moved out of the state so we can start over.

First you have the UAW, with local expressways named after the founding thug, add in the AFL-CIO with it’s tentacles all over the place. Compound that with all lazy state emmployees and there local unions, pile on the counties employee’s unions.

And oh, the worse one of all, the MEA - the state teacher’s union. Oops we don’t want to forget about all those union employees that belong to Cities like Detroit, Flint, Ann Arbor.

Silly me, how’d I forget those wonderful Teamsters that have a lock on so many warehouses, city halls, convention centers, and trucking firms.


9 posted on 12/30/2008 5:47:00 AM PST by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: RightOnline
The unions own the Dems...

..and, the unions are owned by organized crime.

10 posted on 12/30/2008 5:47:41 AM PST by laotzu
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To: Alter Kaker
Toyota, Honda, etc. are unionized... everywhere except the United States. They have factories in Asia, Europe and Latin America... all unionized.

Well, all that means is that they are wise not to saddle themselves with thousand pound fetters in the world's largest auto market. If you have to get bled, the least one could do is not get bled in a place like the US.

11 posted on 12/30/2008 5:51:36 AM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: Alter Kaker

Those unions have nothing whatsoever in common with the concept of the American type of union or the UAW except for the English word, “union.”

Spend some time in Japan.


12 posted on 12/30/2008 5:58:29 AM PST by bill1952 (McCain and the GOP were worthless)
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To: reaganaut1
One can point to state franchise laws, or to the federal government's Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) regulations.

Completely wrong. Foreign car companies which build and sell vehicles in the USA are subject to the same regulations and they are able to make a profit under these conditions.

13 posted on 12/30/2008 6:07:48 AM PST by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: quantim
Even a right to work state can't protect jobs from the UAW. Iowa lost a half dozen tractor manufacturers and Maytag laundry products in past years.
14 posted on 12/30/2008 6:09:16 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: reaganaut1; All

I encourage everyone to reduce their union footprint wherever possible. All else being equal, choose the non-union alternative. I prefer to buy American but not when it supports socialist, anti-competitive behavior.

A little research goes a long way.


15 posted on 12/30/2008 6:21:38 AM PST by AbeKrieger (Clomppity clomp.)
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To: reaganaut1

As the Obama administration takes the helm, the key political question is whether the Democratic Party, which has so benefited from union support, will have the courage to push the UAW into a more reasonable relationship with the Detroit Three.
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A more reasonable relationship would one that sent the UAW packing.
But courage, on the Dim’s side, is going to be in short supply for the next four years.


16 posted on 12/30/2008 6:29:31 AM PST by Taichi (Certe, toto, sentio nos in kansate non iam adesse)
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To: reaganaut1

I am very happy to be driving my NON-union 2008 Honda Accord...


17 posted on 12/30/2008 6:44:15 AM PST by Las Vegas Dave (Illegitimi non carborundum - "Don't let the bastards grind you down")
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To: Las Vegas Dave

and i will never buy a union product.


18 posted on 12/30/2008 6:53:54 AM PST by bestintxas (It's great in Texas)
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To: reaganaut1

A foot?! Closer to two-and-a-half feet thick.


19 posted on 12/30/2008 7:29:28 AM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: Springman; sergeantdave; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; ...

If you would like to be added or dropped from the Michigan ping list, please freepmail me.


20 posted on 12/30/2008 7:50:41 AM PST by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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