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To: marsh2

““Hysterectomies” are called that for a reason.”

Yes, for the same reason tonsilectomies are called what they are. Hyster means uterus, and “ectomy” indicates surgery to remove something.

“This was the surgical response to psychological and other female maladies - e.g “hysteria.” If women acted out, they might become a candidate for this treatment.”

Oh, what a boatload of meadow muffins.

The feminists, like all leftists, rewrote history to suit themselves. Sure, medicine had (and probably still has) a lot of stuff wrong. Headshrinkers gave people lobotomies, electroconvulsive and insulin shock therapy, wrapped them in wet sheets, and did all kinds of crap to men and women alike. Castration was the counterpart to unnecessary hysterectomy.

And none of that means what the feminists try to make it mean.

“She had no idea that such things were possible.”

Ignorance is a fact of the human condition. Other women did know.

“It was a new concept at the time that women might experience the big O like men.”

It was new to talk about it publicly in Western Culture. It was not something new in history. Self-aggrandizing feminists want to claim that never before in history had women stumbled across the clitoris. It’s ridiculous.

“Things are quite different now.”

Yes, we imprison men at a rate seven times that of most developed countries. 85% of black children are born out of wedlock, because there are no husbands to teach the boys how to act like men, and a ridiculously high percentage of these illegitimates kill each other before the age of 25 — again, because there are no fathers in the homes. My 16-year-old daughter knows in graphic detail what men who suffer from same-sex-attraction disorder get up to. Lesbians parade their perversion publicly in front of my three-year-old daughter. My two high-schoolders have to contend with the establishment of a “gay” straight alliance at their school. One in four high-schoolers in this town has a venereal disease. The proporton of children living in homes with their married biological parents is at an all-time low, while the molestation of children by stepfathers and boyfriends seems to be on the rise. We tolerate a TV program called “Sex in the City,” which seems to be about nothing but the attempts of some semi-attractive, superannuated, skanky sluts to find accomplices in fornication. Women are *expected* to engage in premarital sex, and find it quite difficult to develop a relationship if they don’t.

Yes, “things are quite different now.”

“At least for women, I would bet that this is not a part of history to which we would wish to return.”

The word “return” is not appropriate when the subject is a fantasyland that never existed.

“I would not call it cultural degredation that we no longer yank out a woman’s reproductive organs when they behave as men would not wish.”

Not, of course, that “we” ever did.

“Nor do I call the expectations of sexual pleasure by both parties degrading.”

And you mention that, why? In the attempt to create the impression that I hold the opposite position?

“the Taliban”

And there’s the tell-tale comparison with the boogey-man du jour.

Feminism is an attack on the family, designed to turn women into people who are incapable of being adequate wives and mothers, which has the concomitant effect of driving men out of the family. The books and magazine articles to which you refer were some of the first salvos in that attack.

They weren’t “liberating” women from some mythical bondage, they were teaching women that they have a “right” to be selfish sluts with no concern for anyone else’s feelings or well-being.

And what has been the effect? We’ve gone from “Leave it to Beaver” to “the Adams Family on Ketamine.” The family in America is in worse shape than anyone would ever have thought possible. I saw it before the changes, watched the changes happen, and I see it now.

Yes, indeed, things are a lot different...and Satan rejoices.


484 posted on 01/02/2009 8:56:17 AM PST by dsc (A man with an experience is never at the mercy of a man with an argument.)
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To: dsc
Yes, indeed, things are a lot different...and Satan rejoices.

Excellent post.

Dittos, FRiend.

485 posted on 01/02/2009 9:00:15 AM PST by TChris (So many useful idiots...)
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