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To: marsh2

“I remember stories about women in my grandmother’s era lying still and enduring sex as a marital duty. Is that the glorious past to which you wish to return?”

And I remember stories from Boy Scout campouts about ghosts roaming the woods. Just about the same degree of credibility.

“Of course, the bargain made for her submissive cooperation was that the male had to fully financialy support her and remain monogamous.”

And there’s your real objection. It was a two-way street. Both men and women had marital rights and responsibilties, and both were expected to live up to them. Under the one-way feminist regime, men only have responsibilities, women only have rights.

“(Women do tend to put on weight to discourage advances under those conditions”

That must be why Reubens’ models failed to meet modern standards of emaciation, why the Germans spoke admiringly and proudly of dicke fette Frauen, why Tevya in “Fiddler” wishes he were rich so his wife could get fat. Jeez. The world didn’t start the day you were born.

“or they develop psychiatric problems as were common in the Victorian era.)”

Another myth.

“If you truly want a cold fish in bed enduring your advances because of duty and finacial insecurity”

You just hate it that women used to have responsibilities within marriage, don’t you? The circumstances you describe were hardly common, despite your hatred of the notion that husbands have marital rights.

“I would rather have a loving relationship with which to share life’s experience and to help validate my existence, but then I am a female.”

Yeah, right. You’t rather have social approval for the withholding of marital rights as an exercise of power.


165 posted on 12/30/2008 9:37:10 AM PST by dsc (A man with an experience is never at the mercy of a man with an argument.)
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To: dsc
My goodness (chuckle,) this old Grandma hit your hot button.

You might look up “female hysteria.” All sorts of psychological and female symptoms were included under this Victorian diagnosis.

You must be a young person and did not live through the sexual revelations of the Kinsey Report and the book “What You Always Wanted To Know About Sex But Were Afraid To Ask.”

185 posted on 12/30/2008 11:29:39 AM PST by marsh2
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