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To: Alter Kaker; Will88
Some just don't get it and others never will.
Either you are unaware or you chose to ignore. It is beyond me to determine which.
It might be suggested reading of the 1st draft, by TJ, that was presented to Congress. TJ made very clear in his attempt to remedy the slavery situation in this document.
Records indicate a clear choice at the “time”. If a Constitution was to be signed by all parties, the issue of slavery would not be addressed at the time.
Hypocrisy? I think not.
In the eloquent words of Will88 earlier on this thread, I suggest a rereading of his point(s).

“... But these rights and liberties in the US Constitution had never been extended to any men, anywhere, until it was done at the founding of the US. .... (T)the recognition of these rights and liberties by a government for its citizens was a remarkable achievement and step forward at that time. It gave others an example to consider, and it gave the descendants of slaves a constitution they could look to and petition that it also be applied to them. ...

... how freedoms have developed slowly over the centuries and millennia, ... the remarkable advances that took place at the founding of the USA? “ Will88

The gift our FF’s and TJ gave us is so remarkable, so unheard of and so unique in the world, the tarnishing of these great men's memory is thoughtless and inconsiderate. Keep in mind, these men were human and subsequently fallable. But rather than focus on their shortcomings, appreciate and be grateful for what they sacrificed and did manage to give us.

As far as your comment >Huh? What does slavery in Africa have to do with Thomas Jefferson’s personal hypocrisy?<
First, your opinion that TJ was a hypocrite is just that, an opinion. You're welcome to it just don't expect me to hitch my wagon to that baggage of victim hood mentality.
Second, slavery seems to be your big hangup thus my reference to both african slavery today as well as the instances of slavery in America that is being fostered upon the child victims by migrating africans as related in the previously mentioned thread(s).
Again, rather than carping about conditions 200 years ago, do something about the existing horrors of slavery today.
Do something positive.

54 posted on 12/30/2008 1:59:09 PM PST by benasawin
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To: benasawin
Some just don't get it and others never will.

are There just some who believe they have something to gain with their fault finding of everything American. Some are just old leftist haters who resent everything American, some think their claimed victim status is their most precious possession, and others are just the victims of a limited amount of mis-education and PC indoctrination, and they lack the insight and intelligence to work their way out of it into a more accurate historical perspective.

56 posted on 12/30/2008 2:39:24 PM PST by Will88
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