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To: fr_freak

Half the posts of late have been of “the country is doomed, Americans are stupid” variety.
Well, the country is not doomed. Americans are not stupid.

Repubs lost a presidential election.
It is not the end of civilization as we know it.


20 posted on 12/29/2008 10:00:27 AM PST by Bunkasaurus (I'm indecisive....or am I?)
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To: Bunkasaurus

If you’re talking about “America” the PLACE, I’ll agree.

If, however, you’re talking about “America” the IDEA, I must disagree.

America, the idea, came down with a fever shortly after the Constitution was ratified, developed a severe sinus infection between the Wilson and Roosevelt administrations, was diagnosed with influenza during the Carter years and now is close to death.

The obit will read something like “America, in declining health for over 100 years, took her own life yesterday. A memorial service had been planned but has been cancelled due to lack of interest and a conflict with the final installment of ‘American Idol’.”


23 posted on 12/29/2008 10:10:24 AM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: Bunkasaurus

We haven’t just lost an election. We have lost to an America-hating, Marxist, racist, with no qualifications for the job. There was a time when all the foregoing would have made it impossible even for a Democrat to win his party’s nomination.


24 posted on 12/29/2008 10:10:33 AM PST by lady lawyer
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To: Bunkasaurus
Half the posts of late have been of “the country is doomed, Americans are stupid” variety. Well, the country is not doomed. Americans are not stupid.

I don't agree with the posters who say that all is lost. All is not lost. But we are on the verge of losing it all, that is for sure, and outrage at the forces that are threatening our country is one of the only motivating forces that can stop that loss. Being complacent and apathetic will guarantee that our country is lost.

As far as whether Americans are stupid or not, I'd say it's not a matter of intelligence, or at least, it's not a matter of the genetic potential for intelligence that is the question here. Albert Einstein would have been a complete dumbass and would have fallen for every silly trick in the book if he had been kept ignorant of reality his whole life. Even an intelligent person cannot make reasonable decisions without correct information to base those decisions on.

With that in mind, I'd have to say that most Americans are effectively stupid, because they don't have the slightest clue as to what is real and what is just made-up junk. People fall for the global warming hoax, for instance, because they don't understand the natural world enough to be able to see the blatant BS that is the foundation of that hoax. They fall for the Obama lie because they don't know a damn thing about him and simply believe what the media tells them to believe. They turn against their own country and the principles it was founded on because they don't even understand those principles, nor know the history of our country's founding, nor know what our Constitution says or why. They are just a bunch of ignorant suckers just waiting to be taken advantage of.

My favorite example of this is a woman I know who voted for Obama. She is a nice woman, and a fairly responsible one, and not very political by nature. I asked her why she voted for Obama and she couldn't tell me (because even she doesn't know). Out of curiosity, I quizzed her on some basic history. I started with World War II. I ended my quiz once I established that she couldn't even name the DECADE when World War II occurred.

Under those conditions, you can bet your rear end that we are ripe for any shuckster to come along and lead this country straight to hell, and I think that is what is happening right now. The only reason I don't agree with the "all is lost" crowd is that I believe there are enough of us true patriots left to where we can still turn this around. If we get complacent, though, and refuse to recognize the dangers we are facing as a nation, as you seem to be suggesting we do, then all will be lost. I have no doubt of that.
37 posted on 12/29/2008 11:23:35 AM PST by fr_freak
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To: Bunkasaurus
Repubs lost a presidential election.

I think Obama won because the GOP has spent the last few years cutting its own throat and making themselves look like the Democrats-lite.

Obama walked into the perfect electoral storm, as did Carter in 1976. We'll see how he governs over the next 4 years and whether the novelty of being the first black President will be able to override his blatant inexperience and the fact that he is perhaps the least qualified person to ever occupy the White House.

52 posted on 12/29/2008 12:42:38 PM PST by Citizen Blade ("A Conservative Government is an organized hypocrisy" -Benjamin Disraeli)
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