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Barack Obama to relax travel Cuban rules
The Telegraph ^ | 12/28/2008 | Tim Shipman in Washington

Posted on 12/28/2008 10:34:40 PM PST by bruinbirdman

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To: trumandogz

He’s too busy bailing out the team from the county jail.


21 posted on 12/28/2008 11:47:32 PM PST by Dallas59 (Not My President)
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To: Dallas59

You guys need to lock Jerry Jones in a prison cell with PacMan Jones.

The Cowboys are a Train Wreck and Jerry Jones is the person to blame.

So, when do you think that Son of a Bum gets fired?


22 posted on 12/28/2008 11:51:17 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Kara1000

You signed up today to say that?
Bye-bye.


23 posted on 12/29/2008 12:25:22 AM PST by gigster
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To: bruinbirdman

The age of snuggling up to terrorists and dictators has begun.


24 posted on 12/29/2008 12:26:13 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Kara1000
"Another state would be nice. I’d move there in a minute. It’s beautiful there."

I used to live in Miami, over 30 years ago, and of course I worked with many wonderful Cubans. More than once I heard them say in a half joking/whole earnest way 'If only the U.S. would make Cuba a state'. It was fantasy of course, but one that seemed to be shared by more than a few. Before Castro's take over, many members of my family used to travel to Cuba and the photos they took there attest to your statement on how lovely it was.

25 posted on 12/29/2008 1:46:12 AM PST by Mila
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To: bruinbirdman

Yes, and stop the embargo now too.


26 posted on 12/29/2008 3:31:57 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (liberalism = serious mental deficiency)
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To: bruinbirdman

Well, surprise, surprise!

- John


27 posted on 12/29/2008 8:12:26 AM PST by Fishrrman
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To: WoofDog123
"is a failure"

Failure for whom? For what? Certainly Cuba is a failed state, but our treatment of Cuba certainly hasn't harmed us other than not being able to legally purchase cigars. The fact is even if we had a trade policy going on with Cuba similar to the old Soviet Union, Cuba would still be a failed state. The problem is not our lack of trade with Cuba, but Cuba's Marxist economic system. No amount of trade will help it until it ditches its absurd system. Cuba needs capitalist restructure first.

28 posted on 12/29/2008 11:30:35 AM PST by driftless2
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To: driftless2

failure if the goal was to economically undermine the castro regime to the point.

my personal guess is that once it became clear this wasn’t going to ever happen, the embargo was kept up because 1) backing down would be a tremendous loss of face for the US and would be heralded as a de facto acceptance of our screw-up with batista 2) political issues involving cuban ex-pat voting block 3) pissed at cuba for allowing local key-control nukes on their shores. The only one of the above I really agree with is 3.

It is a failed state, but as it and others have shown, failed states live many decades (look at DPRK, for another example of a very small failed state).


29 posted on 12/29/2008 12:24:44 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: driftless2
"our treatment of Cuba certainly hasn't harmed us "

After all is said and done, the Cubans are Commies. Anyone who wants anything to do with them are suspect.

yitbos

30 posted on 12/29/2008 1:40:31 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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